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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 11201ny on November 08, 2015, 10:31:19 AM

Title: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 08, 2015, 10:31:19 AM
Anyone use this? I just bought one, and am curious how it actually connects to the bike?
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: JeffOlson on November 08, 2015, 10:35:09 AM
The bike is supposedly prewired for this, so I think you just need to find the connector. Perhaps it is under the seat.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: pyoungbl on November 08, 2015, 01:38:24 PM
A photo or link would most helpful for those of us who don't have a clue about said kit.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 08, 2015, 01:46:34 PM
A photo or link would most helpful for those of us who don't have a clue about said kit.

(http://i.imgur.com/bMLWJFS.jpg)
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: SeanF on November 08, 2015, 02:08:47 PM
On my '14 v7 Special, I found an unused connector in the wiring bundle behind the headlight that supplies 12vdc with the ignition on.
On the wiring diagram it is labeled for GPS. Not sure if the connector matches what is in the posted photo.
Might be worth looking at.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: elvisboy77 on November 08, 2015, 02:29:35 PM
Battery tender makes a nice kit, simple to install right to the battery.  That is what I did in my Eldorado, but my dealer had already unstable an "SAE" plug for me to plug my USB adapter into.  Your dealer could probably help you with this, too.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 08, 2015, 04:02:42 PM
but my dealer had already unstable an "SAE" plug for me to plug my USB adapter into.

What do you mean? You replaced what your dealer did with the Battery Tender version? I figured i'd go with the one Moto Guzzi sells with their kits. I looked around under the seat for the connector hookup, didn't see anything obvious.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: JProdun on November 08, 2015, 04:37:02 PM
Is it the one right on top/next to air filter? Ots right there... Shouldn't be hard to find really.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Cam3512 on November 08, 2015, 04:49:37 PM
http://www.batterytender.com/Accessories/USB-Charger-QDC.html

You can find this for about $10.  Hooks right to the Tender pigtail on the battery.  Hope you didn't pay out the ass for that one.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 08, 2015, 04:54:05 PM
http://www.batterytender.com/Accessories/USB-Charger-QDC.html

You can find this for about $10.  Hooks right to the Tender pigtail on the battery.  Hope you didn't pay out the ass for that one.

I did, i just figured since it is pre-wired...
Anyway, that would explain why nobody sells them. Does the Tender come with wires? ..Go gently, i'm a dipshit..
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Cam3512 on November 08, 2015, 05:06:13 PM
I did, i just figured since it is pre-wired...
Anyway, that would explain why nobody sells them. Does the Tender come with wires? ..Go gently, i'm a dipshit..

Do you have a Battery Tender pigtail attached to your battery?  If not, I'll send you one.  Whatever you're charging should have a long wire to plug into the USB.  And yes, if you buy a Battery Tender (Junior - I have one for each bike), it comes with an SAE pigtail to attach to the battery.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: SeanF on November 08, 2015, 05:21:09 PM
On my '14 v7 Special, I found an unused connector in the wiring bundle behind the headlight that supplies 12vdc with the ignition on.
On the wiring diagram it is labeled for GPS. Not sure if the connector matches what is in the posted photo.
Might be worth looking at.

It actually might be the correct the connector type. Here's the one I lopped off my Special:
(http://www.schoolbushomestead.com/Not-about-the-bus/Motorcycle-miscellany/Mixed-bag/i-tS7Hz8r/1/M/IMG_20151108_161112776-M.jpg)
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 08, 2015, 05:27:51 PM
It actually might be the correct the connector type. Here's the one I lopped off my Special:
(http://www.schoolbushomestead.com/Not-about-the-bus/Motorcycle-miscellany/Mixed-bag/i-tS7Hz8r/1/M/IMG_20151108_161112776-M.jpg)

Thanks :boozing:
I did read that in the forums. I'll check it out.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: canuguzzi on November 08, 2015, 05:59:55 PM
A photo or link would most helpful for those of us who don't have a clue about said kit.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 08, 2015, 06:00:51 PM
:thumb:

see 4th reply
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: elvisboy77 on November 08, 2015, 06:28:24 PM
What do you mean? You replaced what your dealer did with the Battery Tender version? I figured i'd go with the one Moto Guzzi sells with their kits. I looked around under the seat for the connector hookup, didn't see anything obvious.

Omg not unstable!  Auto correct!  Installed, they had already installed!  I don't think they offer a kit for the 1400.  Sorry about the confusion.

I think you did the right thing getting the official one though, even if it cost more.   That's what I would have done starting from scratch....but I am sure others will disagree.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Cam3512 on November 08, 2015, 06:41:29 PM
http://www.batterytender.com/Accessories/USB-Charger-QDC.html

You can find this for about $10.  Hooks right to the Tender pigtail on the battery.  Hope you didn't pay out the ass for that one.

What's easier than just plugging this in?
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: davedel44 on November 08, 2015, 06:43:22 PM
Omg not unstable!  Auto correct!  Installed, they had already installed!  I don't think they offer a kit for the 1400.  Sorry about the confusion.

I think you did the right thing getting the official one though, even if it cost more.   That's what I would have done starting from scratch....but I am sure others will disagree.

Do what suits you.  As you get more comfortable working on your bike stuff like this will seem easy.  Enjoy you bike!

Dave
Galveston
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 08, 2015, 06:46:33 PM
What's easier than just plugging this in?

"Hooks right to the  on the battery."

Well maybe because my battery has no Tender pigtails? Regardless, that was the point of this thread... i'm trying to figure it out.

Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Bradkap on November 08, 2015, 08:14:37 PM
So, there is a GPS connector already in place on the V7 ? Is it suitable to power a Garmin ?
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: elvisboy77 on November 08, 2015, 08:44:07 PM
"Hooks right to the  on the battery."

Well maybe because my battery has no Tender pigtails? Regardless, that was the point of this thread... i'm trying to figure it out.

I would ask your dealer, for sure - there is probably a plug somewhere but that stuff can get tucked out of sight.

The connector in your picture is water resistant if not waterproof, which would be one reason to stick with the factory set up.

Hopefully someone on this site with the same bike will chime in if the dealer is not available.

Also, you should try guzzitech.com forums, they are very helpful.

Good luck!
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Cam3512 on November 09, 2015, 06:19:08 AM
So, there is a GPS connector already in place on the V7 ? Is it suitable to power a Garmin ?

Yes, it's wire tied up behind the headlight between the forks.  It is green in color, and fits a Tom Tom GPS.  I changed out the connector to run my Garmin.  It's hot with the switched ignition.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 09, 2015, 06:29:35 AM
Yes, it's wire tied up behind the headlight between the forks.  It is green in color, and fits a Tom Tom GPS.  I changed out the connector to run my Garmin.  It's hot with the switched ignition.

Thanks, this is exactly what I was hoping for!
 :bike-037: :boozing:
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Cam3512 on November 09, 2015, 06:32:56 AM
Thanks, this is exactly what I was hoping for!
 :bike-037: :boozing:

Sorry dude, didn't know you were looking for the same "GPS" plug.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 09, 2015, 06:34:39 AM
Sorry dude, didn't know you were looking for the same "GPS" plug.

.. didn't either.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Kev m on November 09, 2015, 06:43:55 AM
So have we figured out that's where the factory USB kit goes?

If so cool.

Me, I'm buying the Battery Tender one because every single bike in the fleet has a battery tender harness so it makes it real convenient to move it from bike-to-bike.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Cam3512 on November 09, 2015, 07:00:25 AM
I just looked at Jay's new-to-him '14 Special I'm temporarily storing in my garage.  Found it right away behind the headlight on the left side behind the ear.  Easy access if you unbolt the headlight bucket.   I snapped a photo, but can't post it here until I get back home.  You can PM me with your email address and I'll send it to you.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Kev m on November 09, 2015, 07:25:15 AM
I just looked at Jay's new-to-him '14 Special I'm temporarily storing in my garage.

I betcha this week is killing Jay that he can't ride it yet...  :laugh: :grin: :evil:
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: slowmike on November 09, 2015, 09:51:57 AM
The piece in the picture is GU2000166.  It's USB power only.  The ability to read the data comes with the GMP bluetooth ECU 2S000157 plus one of two wiring harnesses:

2S000170-for the V7II
2S000156-for the Cali 1400

I'd spent some time researching this...
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: 11201ny on November 10, 2015, 07:52:55 AM
The piece in the picture is GU2000166.  It's USB power only.  The ability to read the data comes with the GMP bluetooth ECU 2S000157 plus one of two wiring harnesses:

2S000170-for the V7II
2S000156-for the Cali 1400

I'd spent some time researching this...

The multimedia platform & kit. I had never heard of this until now. Is it pointless? I was just looking for a usb charge, so i could theoretically use phone navigation. Anyway, this doesn't seem to be really available in the states?
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: slowmike on November 10, 2015, 08:38:42 AM
if you go to the motoguzzi usa site and look at bikes, then click on accessories they are listed with an MSRP. 
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: jas67 on November 10, 2015, 10:47:03 AM
I betcha this week is killing Jay that he can't ride it yet...  :laugh: :grin: :evil:

 :drool:

It's raining today, so, today, it isn't killing me.     Tomorrow might be another story.   Saturday will be here soon enough.   :thumb:

So have we figured out that's where the factory USB kit goes?

If so cool.

Me, I'm buying the Battery Tender one because every single bike in the fleet has a battery tender harness so it makes it real convenient to move it from bike-to-bike.

I've got one.   I don't know where it is right now, but, I've got one.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: charlie b on November 10, 2015, 11:59:24 AM
Just remember that if you use one connected to a battery tender and you leave your phone/tablet/GPS plugged in it is draining the battery.  I like my USB connections to be switched.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: jas67 on November 10, 2015, 12:06:38 PM
Just remember that if you use one connected to a battery tender and you leave your phone/tablet/GPS plugged in it is draining the battery.  I like my USB connections to be switched.

Actually, you don't even have to leave anything plugged into it to drain your battery.   Those adapters have an digital voltage regulator 12-volts to 5 volts (it's actually a small switching power supply).   That circuit uses a little it of power by itself w/o anything even plugged into it, just like the ubiquitous power bricks and electronics chargers draw a small amount of AC from the wall socket even when nothing is connected to them.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Kev m on November 10, 2015, 12:20:26 PM
Just remember that if you use one connected to a battery tender and you leave your phone/tablet/GPS plugged in it is draining the battery.  I like my USB connections to be switched.

Good point - and that might be an issue for someone who wants to mount a GPS or something (which is probably why Guzzi put the switched power connector there).

But for someone like me who would only want it to charge something while he was riding, I'd never walk away with the wires hanging off the bike so it's less of a concern.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Kev m on November 10, 2015, 02:50:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/bMLWJFS.jpg)

OP - when you get around to it, let us know if that connector under the headlight is indeed a fit (and while you're at it, do you have a V7 Stone or V7II Stone)?

I'm hearing mixed reports.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: jas67 on November 10, 2015, 05:26:11 PM
Good point - and that might be an issue for someone who wants to mount a GPS or something (which is probably why Guzzi put the switched power connector there).

But for someone like me who would only want it to charge something while he was riding, I'd never walk away with the wires hanging off the bike so it's less of a concern.

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Clancy on November 11, 2015, 06:59:31 PM
On the V7-II there is a spare plug under the seat for the usb adapter (tucked down behind the ABS fuse holder and the EMU interface plug holder).
I saw it on the wiring diagram a while back, got curious and tracked it down.

This is not the same as the Tom Tom plug behind the headlight.
The usb adapter plug is the same as the type shown in the usb adapter picture.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Gioco on February 24, 2016, 04:08:30 PM
I just installed this part on the picture - GU2000166 - on my MG V7 II special today. It took me about two hours - the connector is pretty hard to find and I almost gave up at some point, before calling the dealership who sold it to me and said that it's 'somewhere there'.
The connector for this part is under the seat of the V7 II, not behind the headlight. You need to remove the right-hand side cover to find it, and in my case, I also had to remove the battery. Then you see a spare connector bundled together with a bunch of other wires. Once you see it, remove the cover of it and plug the USB socket kit. Then put back the battery and back the right-hand side cover of the bike. The piece that helps to keep the USB plug firm should be placed on the left-hand side pre-screwed opening under your seat (not the right-hand side one) with the included bolt. Then you fasten the USB plug with the two pig tails on top of it, not to move around. At least that's how I did it and it seems to work. It's not so hard, the hard part is finding the connector, once you do the rest is easy. First I had confused the USB connector with a plug visible just under the seat, but this one seems to be the diagnostics plug, so one needs to look harder.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: malik on February 24, 2016, 04:36:29 PM
Thanks Gioco, good description & thanks for tracking it down. I can use that.It didn't make sense for it to be the connector to the ECU.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: guzziownr on February 24, 2016, 04:48:16 PM
I'll be home on Saturday afternoon in Elmhurst Queens if you want to look at your options.

 I taught Cam everything he knows.  Pictured below is a battery tender pigtail, a USB charging port and a digital battery gauge.  Useful!

DW

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gJk6Pa3U5Vk/Vs44G84zquI/AAAAAAAABEc/rWYuK3zb9dg/w563-h685-no/IMG_1956.JPG)
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Clancy on February 24, 2016, 04:52:27 PM
On the V7-II there is a spare plug under the seat for the usb adapter (tucked down behind the ABS fuse holder and the EMU interface plug holder).

Sorry, I thought this would help to tell you where to look.

I didn't need to take off the side cover or remove the battery, just shone a torch down behind the air filter to see the plug then (gently) pulled the cable till the plug came free.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: swordds on February 24, 2016, 06:28:01 PM
I bought the USB charger plug pictured from AF-1. It works great and fits perfectly. It mounts under the seat and a charginging cord can be plugged into it and run under the fuel tank to the handlebars or wherever. It plugs directly into a connector also located under the seat. At first the connector my be a little difficult to see and find because it is stuffed between the fuse holder and the rear fender. There are actually several (3 I believe) unused connectors bundled together. Sorry I am to stupid to post pictures or I would, but the connector is there and the hole for mounting this plug is there and it all fits together perfectly and works perfectly and is not just some devious plot by MG to screw us. And no, this is definitely not the same as the connector behind the headlight, this USB charger is not meant to connect to that connector and will not plug into it, it fits and connects under the seat.
Title: Re: USB CONNECTION KIT V7 STONE
Post by: Bulldog9 on July 24, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
Actually, you don't even have to leave anything plugged into it to drain your battery.   Those adapters have an digital voltage regulator 12-volts to 5 volts (it's actually a small switching power supply).   That circuit uses a little it of power by itself w/o anything even plugged into it, just like the ubiquitous power bricks and electronics chargers draw a small amount of AC from the wall socket even when nothing is connected to them.

Killed a brand new battery this way. Traveled for work for 3 months.... came back and nada