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Title: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 09, 2018, 08:49:59 AM
Gizzards and hearts into a vac bag with a few pads of butter. Vac'ed and double sealed. Going to sous vide these for 24 hours at 140 degrees. Tomorrow after work I'll pull them from the SV bath trim and then skewer them. Then move outside to grill them over red hot charcoal and brushed w/ Soy Vay Veri Teriyaki.

Going to serve them with a side of Porterhouse about 1-1/2 thick and butter browned mushrooms.

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Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: britman on December 09, 2018, 09:22:17 AM
You have to check each location for Kentucky Fried Chicken, some sell fried chicken liver dinners.  They are damn good, at the least the ones I have ordered were.  My Wife thinks they are the most disgusting type of food one could ingest.  I always counter with, "It was a brave man who first ate an oyster."  I will also eat my weight in those, raw, fresh, with a touch of cocktail sauce.  One final observation, raw chicken gizzards,  hearts, and livers make the best catfish bait in the world..........
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: JJ on December 09, 2018, 09:23:34 AM
Also known as...


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Somewhere, I have a photo while driving across West Texas and the sign at a roadside restaurant said: "LIVERS & GIZZARDS!!" :shocked: :shocked: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :huh: :huh:
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Roebling3 on December 09, 2018, 10:31:07 AM
OM, OM. Am I being foolish thinking you peel the gizzards b4 the process begins? Stomach muscles have got to be the strongest in the animal kingdom. Perhaps you pre-treat, like Leutefisk? :)
Liver though? Excellent! Happy Holidays, Lance,  R3~ 
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Guzzistajohn on December 09, 2018, 10:36:40 AM
The texture of gizzards really grosses me out. I'm OK with liver. Best liver I ever had was fresh out of a deer. Cooked with onions....
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 09, 2018, 02:15:38 PM
OM, OM. Am I being foolish thinking you peel the gizzards b4 the process begins? Stomach muscles have got to be the strongest in the animal kingdom. Perhaps you pre-treat, like Leutefisk? :)
Liver though? Excellent! Happy Holidays, Lance,  R3~

Hopefully the 24 hours will soften them up. Shooting for something close to what we had years ago I Phili at a Japanease restaurant, yakatori gizzards.

Also Bresaola is done and I believe I owe you a piece. Cool weather Iím willing to vac pac and priority mail it should be fine unrefridgerated for a day or 3. Itís well cured and tasting fine.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: geoff in almonte on December 09, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
The texture of gizzards really grosses me out. I'm OK with liver. Best liver I ever had was fresh out of a deer. Cooked with onions....

Not a liver eater usually.  But once, I stayed a weekend with some beef farmer friends.  We stayed up really late - they were slaughtering a cow and wanted the cool late nite/early AM to kill, gut, skin and hang the beast.  The liver was still warm when it hit the fry pan.  With onions & eggs and fresh baked bread it was by far one of the best b'fasts I have ever had.

G
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Roebling3 on December 09, 2018, 02:59:17 PM
Lance, I didn't think I'd be salivating 'til mid January. Whooopie!
We've been in the mid teens for a few days.
We may have to have another, smaller, Guzzi whoop de doo when the Bresaola arrives.
Please let me know what you need.  R3~ 
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Lannis on December 09, 2018, 03:10:23 PM

  With onions & eggs and fresh baked bread it was by far one of the best b'fasts I have ever had.

G

You could precede that sentence with almost ANYTHING and it would still be true!

Lannis
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: yogidozer on December 09, 2018, 03:34:47 PM
I make my own dog's food. I add Gizzards & hearts to the boneless chicken breasts, fresh veggies, and barley.
They love it.  :grin:
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Guzzistajohn on December 09, 2018, 03:46:48 PM
I make my own dog's food. I add Gizzards & hearts to the boneless chicken breasts, fresh veggies, and barley.
They love it.  :grin:

I just went to the store to get Maimie some chicken thighs  :laugh:
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Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: yogidozer on December 09, 2018, 03:58:48 PM
I just went to the store to get Maimie some chicken thighs  :laugh:
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In my area, NW Ct., I can find boneless, skinless, chicken breast for really good prices. Sometimes $1.49.
I've been doing this for a long time. The recalls, and problems with canned dog food ain't worth it.
Nothing but the best for my 3 best friends.  :wink:
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Guzzistajohn on December 09, 2018, 04:49:09 PM
In my area, NW Ct., I can find boneless, skinless, chicken breast for really good prices. Sometimes $1.49.
I've been doing this for a long time. The recalls, and problems with canned dog food ain't worth it.
Nothing but the best for my 3 best friends.  :wink:

I just paid $1.19 for thighs with bones. we de bone and mix with some Beneful dog food, she loves it!
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: n3303j on December 09, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
Livers & Gizzards & Hearts. Oh Boy!  :drool:
My favorite part of Thanksgiving comes in the small bag inside the Turkey.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 09, 2018, 05:40:57 PM
Lance, I didn't think I'd be salivating 'til mid January. Whooopie!
We've been in the mid teens for a few days.
We may have to have another, smaller, Guzzi whoop de doo when the Bresaola arrives.
Please let me know what you need.  R3~

Only thing I need to know is do you also want a sample of some Lonzino and maybe some ghost pepper cinnamon beef jerky?

Santa, Gargamel,  Gnomes or whatever deity you follow will cover the shipping! All there is left to do is enjoy!
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Roebling3 on December 10, 2018, 09:20:45 AM
OMG. Gnomes? Haven't they been upgraded to emoji's?
I started salivating as soon as I read 'Ghost pepper and Cinnamon'. Yes, thank you Lance; I'd like to try the Jerky, as well as the Bresaola.  That would be terrific. Thank you very much. 
     Good fortune,  R3~
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: stonelover on December 10, 2018, 10:38:20 AM

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Livers & Gizzards & Hearts. Oh Boy!  :drool:
My favorite part of Thanksgiving comes in the small bag inside the Turkey.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Lannis on December 10, 2018, 11:13:40 AM
I just paid $1.19 for thighs with bones. we de bone and mix with some Beneful dog food, she loves it!

I've never bought chicken to feed to a dog.   Do you cook it first before you mix it up and feed it?

Lannis
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Guzzistajohn on December 10, 2018, 11:28:56 AM
I've never bought chicken to feed to a dog.   Do you cook it first before you mix it up and feed it?

Lannis

Yes, we boil the thighs. save the broth and swish a little in. She's been a picky eater her whole life but not with this recipe.

My sister in law has a wolf sanctuary, no cooking needed for the wolfies, 1/2 raw chicken is gone in about 2 crunches.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: yogidozer on December 10, 2018, 11:38:54 AM
I've never bought chicken to feed to a dog.   Do you cook it first before you mix it up and feed it?

Lannis

Yes, cut it into smaller pieces, boil it. Let that cool, while the veggies and barley cook.
While the veggies cook, I break the chicken down, one of my dogs lost part of his lower jaw to cancer.
When everything is done, I mix it together. Then put it into one gallon containers, and freeze it, taking it out as needed.
I usually make at least ten gallons at a time.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: geoff in almonte on December 10, 2018, 05:51:55 PM
You could precede that sentence with almost ANYTHING and it would still be true!

Lannis

Add Canadian bacon (piemeal or Back Bacon in Canuckian) and I'm in Heaven.

G
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: kballowe on December 11, 2018, 06:26:53 AM
Kidneys are also good
Just as long as you first boil the pi$$ out of them.

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Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: yogidozer on December 11, 2018, 06:39:53 AM
Kidneys are also good
Just as long as you first boil the pi$$ out of them.

 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Or you can pickle them, if you like Jack Daniels  :laugh:
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: JJ on December 11, 2018, 07:29:05 AM
Just for perspective...in Japan, they call it YAKITORI...and it is one of my favorites dishes, with a fresh draft beer. 

They consist of:  Chicken hearts, kidneys, shoulder, butt, stomach, liver...and anything else from the chicken you can imagine! 

Grilled with a savory sauce...good stuff! :cool: :thumb: :smiley:


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Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: yogidozer on December 11, 2018, 07:38:34 AM
Just for perspective...in Japan, they call it YAKITORI...and it is one of my favorites dishes, with a fresh draft beer. 

They consist of:  Chicken hearts, kidneys, shoulder, butt, stomach, liver...and anything else from the chicken you can imagine! 

Grilled with a savory sauce...good stuff! :cool: :thumb: :smiley:


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Are you sure it's chicken?  :shocked:
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: JJ on December 11, 2018, 08:03:27 AM
Are you sure it's chicken?  :shocked:

The Japanese don't eat dogs and cats...but they do eat horse meat....

However the Chinese and the Koreans do!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: 

In China, if it "walks, crawls, runs, swims or flies"....it goes right into the WOK!! :laugh: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 11, 2018, 08:08:50 AM
The Japanese don't eat dogs and cats...but they do eat horse meat....

However the Chinese and the Koreans do!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: 

In China, if it "walks, crawls, runs, swims or flies"....it goes right into the WOK!! :laugh: :grin: :wink:

Horse meats is available in Canada and lots of other countries. As is Donkey.

Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 11, 2018, 08:14:33 AM
Home made pet food also has a downside as its not a balanced diet and you can actually be doing more harm than good. Also is chicken or other meats really safer than premade pet food. Lots of recalls happening all the time on foods we consume every day.

I get a kick out of "my dog love's it". My dog likes to lick her ass, eat cat poop, drink from puddles or toilet, eat dead things she finds, eat dry food. Just like 99.9% of other dogs she doesn't have the most discerning palate and will eat most anything.

I understand if there are special requirements like dental or digestive issues. But if its because you have a finicky eater its most likely self created.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: JJ on December 11, 2018, 08:35:46 AM
Horse meats is available in Canada and lots of other countries. As is Donkey.

Yes...indeed!! :shocked: :huh: :rolleyes:


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Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: stonelover on December 11, 2018, 09:27:14 AM
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Home made pet food also has a downside as its not a balanced diet and you can actually be doing more harm than good. Also is chicken or other meats really safer than premade pet food. Lots of recalls happening all the time on foods we consume every day.

I get a kick out of "my dog love's it". My dog likes to lick her ass, eat cat poop, drink from puddles or toilet, eat dead things she finds, eat dry food. Just like 99.9% of other dogs she doesn't have the most discerning palate and will eat most anything.

I understand if there are special requirements like dental or digestive issues. But if its because you have a finicky eater its most likely self created.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Roebling3 on December 11, 2018, 09:57:29 AM
Dogs, Wolves, etc. by nature, have a higher level of acid in there gut tract. It's what allows a tolerance for all that really bad stuff they get into. The same is true for all wild animals, including birds. I tend to think it's the high mineral count in commercial dog foods that cause urinary tract problems. ie: bladder & kidney stones. 

I've made 'dog soup' for a long time. I add it to the dry food. I've not added the barley; been saving it for people soups.  R3~ 
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: yogidozer on December 11, 2018, 11:43:15 AM
Home made pet food also has a downside as its not a balanced diet and you can actually be doing more harm than good. Also is chicken or other meats really safer than premade pet food. Lots of recalls happening all the time on foods we consume every day.

I get a kick out of "my dog love's it". My dog likes to lick her ass, eat cat poop, drink from puddles or toilet, eat dead things she finds, eat dry food. Just like 99.9% of other dogs she doesn't have the most discerning palate and will eat most anything.

I understand if there are special requirements like dental or digestive issues. But if its because you have a finicky eater its most likely self created.
Not a balanced diet? So between the meat, vegetables, and grain, what is lacking?
Also all my dogs get a daily dose of glucosamine.
Have you ever looked into dog food recalls?
And tell me, which is more likely to be honestly reported, human food, or dog food?
Stick to your Pedigree canned food, in fact share some with your dog.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 11, 2018, 12:45:46 PM
Not a balanced diet? So between the meat, vegetables, and grain, what is lacking?
Also all my dogs get a daily dose of glucosamine.
Have you ever looked into dog food recalls?
And tell me, which is more likely to be honestly reported, human food, or dog food?
Stick to your Pedigree canned food, in fact share some with your dog.

My pups too special for me to pretend to be an animal nutritionist.

So unless you change/rotate ingredients or add in vitamins and minerals to the base ingredients and round out the nutritional value you feed a very linear diet and not a balanced one. Simply adding chicken vegetables and a grain together does not constitute a well balance diet. Would you eat only boiled chicken, steamed peas and quinoa and truly believe your diet was well balanced? That's what your potentially doing to your dog.   

I give my dog fish oil pills. Since she's never had a heart attack they must be working.





 







 
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: yogidozer on December 11, 2018, 01:02:34 PM
My pups too special for me to pretend to be an animal nutritionist.

So unless you change/rotate ingredients or add in vitamins and minerals to the base ingredients and round out the nutritional value you feed a very linear diet and not a balanced one. Simply adding chicken vegetables and a grain together does not constitute a well balance diet. Would you eat only boiled chicken, steamed peas and quinoa and truly believe your diet was well balanced? That's what your potentially doing to your dog.   

I give my dog fish oil pills. Since she's never had a heart attack they must be working.

I use multiple vegetables in my mix. You do realize vegetables, (broccoli, carrots, sweet potatoes, etc.) chicken livers, are a source of vitamins, don't you?
Would you eat your so called healthy canned dog food?
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: larrys on December 11, 2018, 02:36:35 PM
Back when I was an active hunter the dog and the cats were always on hand for pheasant hearts, livers, and gizzards, cut up and nuked. "A piece for you, a piece for you, a piece for Daddy..."
Larry
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Lannis on December 11, 2018, 02:42:05 PM
Back when I was an active hunter the dog and the cats were always on hand for pheasant hearts, livers, and gizzards, cut up and nuked. "A piece for you, a piece for you, a piece for Daddy..."
Larry

Jack's absolute favorite is venison, raw or cooked.   Don't know if it reminds him of The Call Of The Wild or what, but he'll do or learn anything if the "good boy!" treat is venison.

Then chicken, pork, or a little morsel of cheese.   He won't touch a "dog cookie" or any sort of fruit or veggie snack.

I agree about the "picky palate" of dogs in general though.   How a dog can spend 10 minutes with his head a foot into the rear end of a deer dead 2 days, and then pretend that he "doesn't like the taste of" ... well, anything, I don't know!

Lannis
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: yogidozer on December 11, 2018, 03:51:00 PM
Jack's absolute favorite is venison, raw or cooked.   Don't know if it reminds him of The Call Of The Wild or what, but he'll do or learn anything if the "good boy!" treat is venison.

Then chicken, pork, or a little morsel of cheese.   He won't touch a "dog cookie" or any sort of fruit or veggie snack.

I agree about the "picky palate" of dogs in general though.   How a dog can spend 10 minutes with his head a foot into the rear end of a deer dead 2 days, and then pretend that he "doesn't like the taste of" ... well, anything, I don't know!

Lannis
I used to use venison for making dog food for many years. Lots of good parts to choose from. Heart, liver, tongue. But the game wardens get a bit upset if you take too many a year  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Dean Rose on December 11, 2018, 04:04:21 PM
Horse meats is available in Canada and lots of other countries. As is Donkey.

Italy too.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 11, 2018, 06:15:59 PM
Getting back on track

Here ther are after 25 hours in a 140 degree water bath

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Drained and emptied into a bowl. The juice would have made an exceptional gravy

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Wheat separated from the chaff

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Skewered

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A little help from the BGE

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Money shot

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All I can is these were amazing!
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 12, 2018, 04:49:48 AM
I use multiple vegetables in my mix. You do realize vegetables, (broccoli, carrots, sweet potatoes, etc.) chicken livers, are a source of vitamins, don't you?
Would you eat your so called healthy canned dog food?


No I would not. But in all fairness I would feed canned food to my dog either.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: drawnverybadly on December 13, 2018, 04:11:11 PM
Just looking at that is giving me a gout flareup.  :cry:
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: JJ on December 15, 2018, 05:40:20 PM
Peasant dining during the Middle Ages - - NOTE that OFFAL (gizzards, livers, hearts, and MORE!!) is mentioned!! :wink: :shocked: :huh: :rolleyes:


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Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 15, 2018, 10:55:09 PM
Peasant dining during the Middle Ages - - NOTE that OFFAL (gizzards, livers, hearts, and MORE!!) is mentioned!! :wink: :shocked: :huh: :rolleyes:


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No different than American BBQ where the lesser cuts/scraps of meats and/or offal were what was left for the slaves.
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Roebling3 on December 16, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
Just sayin'. I would not use any organ meat in a gravy or soups for human tastes.
There is always a lingering acidic(?), bitterness.   R3~
Title: Re: Gizzards & hearts
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 16, 2018, 12:11:51 PM
Just sayin'. I would not use any organ meat in a gravy or soups for human tastes.
There is always a lingering acidic(?), bitterness.   R3~

Giblet gravy :drool: