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Title: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Spuddy on January 14, 2019, 11:01:50 AM
LUAP:

I can't imagine Montana US Senator Steve Daines offers Wild Guzzi enough $ to justify his political ads popping up on my screen. I am not interested in this forum associating with any political party or ideology.  My 2 cents...

Spud
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Kev m on January 14, 2019, 11:46:00 AM
LUAP:

I can't imagine Montana US Senator Steve Daines offers Wild Guzzi enough $ to justify his political ads popping up on my screen. I am not interested in this forum associating with any political party or ideology.  My 2 cents...

Spud

I believe the ads you see are a result of YOUR browser history and have little or nothing to do with WG.

I.E. WG isn't choosing the ads you see and is not associating with any political party or ideology.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: fossil on January 14, 2019, 11:53:40 AM
I think Kev is right. I never see different ads than several of German dealers for cars, bikes and stuff. Not even some from our Chancellor Frau Dr. Merkel  :azn:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: old head on January 14, 2019, 11:58:19 AM

just clean your cookies from time to time, and you will see a big change in what ads pop up.

Most are triggered by your browsing history, IMO.

Old Head
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 14, 2019, 11:59:59 AM
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I believe the ads you see are a result of YOUR browser history and have little or nothing to do with WG.

I don't know about that. Unless Dorcia is searching for girls that want to meet me.. :shocked:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: rocker59 on January 14, 2019, 12:00:57 PM
I believe the ads you see are a result of YOUR browser history and have little or nothing to do with WG.

I.E. WG isn't choosing the ads you see and is not associating with any political party or ideology.

This ^
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: rocker59 on January 14, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
just clean your cookies from time to time, 

Yes.  Quick and easy to do.  Plus, A lot of spyware/malware/anti-virus apps will do this for you.

I googled US Saddlebag company this morning, and have gotten a few of their ads showing on WG in the couple hours since.  Friday I was on Cycle Trader, and got some ads from them on WG later in the day.

The ads are directed and targeted, based on your searching/browsing history.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: fossil on January 14, 2019, 12:04:49 PM
I have chosen the settings on my browsers (FireFox 64 ESR, SeaMonkey and Edge) in a way that private data (including cookies) are deleted each time I close them. This also helps when you e.g. want to book a flight online, find one, but proceed to search. If you dont erase the cookies before you return to the offer you found before it can happen it is not so good priced as before...
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Toecutter on January 14, 2019, 12:16:36 PM
I don't know about that. Unless Dorcia is searching for girls that want to meet me.. :shocked:

Maybe, maybe not. But your search history is proving that you fit the demographic (age, gender, location)
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Luap McKeever on January 14, 2019, 01:14:21 PM
LUAP:
I am not interested in this forum associating with any political party or ideology.
Spud


#1: I have no say about any types of ads that are displaying on your personal computer? If I did, you'd only see Guzzi ads. But, since Guzzi don't advertise, I guess that'll never happen. The next thing I choose through market targeting is stuff that all of us like. Camping, riding, outdoor gear, motorcycle parts, etc. But, those types of ads will only show up if you're using a browser that has never searched for anything and placed a cookie on your computer. Also, some local businesses to your location might occasionally put an ad into Googles rotation. It's strange how it all works, and I could talk about it all day and it still wouldn't make much sense.

#2: Aint the algorithms of googles search history and use of cookies fun?  As others have said, it's all about your search history/cookies, etc the way the ad rotation is displayed. I cannot control it.

#3: The best solution is to use only 1 browser (Waterfox is great) for WG if you don't want stuff like this happening. Use another browser for everything else. Just a thought...
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 14, 2019, 01:30:28 PM
I thought the ads I was getting was because Dusty was searching for a new Filipino wife  :grin:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Turin on January 14, 2019, 02:01:51 PM
Ha ! Cheap Guzzisti paying for a mail order bride!
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: pete roper on January 14, 2019, 02:36:46 PM
Maybe, maybe not. But your search history is proving that you fit the demographic (age, gender, location)

I think that this has to be the case, not only because if I was searching for that many girls I would of either died of a coronary or the old Beef Bayonet would of dropped off or been worn to a nubbin years ago but I also get ads for caravans, what in the US are referred to as 'Trailers' I believe? The day I display any interest in a 'Toad' or becoming a 'Toadist' is the day that my kids have strict instructions to stove the back of my head in with the largest cast iron skillet we possess, drag me over the road to the cemetery and chuck me in the next available open grave!
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom on January 14, 2019, 02:43:50 PM
Maybe, maybe not. But your search history is proving that you fit the demographic (age, gender, location)

Dorcia is getting firearms, poisons & "How to move on with the death of a spouse."  :grin:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Lannis on January 14, 2019, 02:55:11 PM
Dorcia is getting firearms, poisons & "How to move on with the death of a spouse."  :grin:

As the hearse heads toward the road down my driveway with my still slightly warm body in it, there is the potential for a head-on collision with the Vinyl Siding people and the Driveway Asphalt Paving people as they race up the driveway for the life insurance check Fay will have offered them ...

Lannis
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom on January 14, 2019, 02:55:58 PM
 :grin:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Moto on January 14, 2019, 04:03:09 PM
Spuddy lives in Montana, which might be enough to provoke a Montana senator's ad without any relevant browsing history.

Me, I'm drowning in Olympus camera equipment ads, having recently made a fateful step in that direction.

I think the net effect of all this targeted advertising on all of us must be to increase the volume of stuff we eventually buy. I'll try erasing the cookies.

Mmm, cookies....

Moto
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom on January 14, 2019, 04:06:10 PM
I'm getting Gustafson Plastics and a local Montessori school,   :grin:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Ringosdad on January 14, 2019, 04:15:02 PM
I just had a peloton ad pop up on my screen, are you guys trying to tell me I'm fat? :grin:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom on January 14, 2019, 04:16:54 PM
NO!  It's a reminder that there are other activities during Winter that you can participate in.  :tongue:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 14, 2019, 04:56:32 PM
I'm getting CPAP ads now  :thumb:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Ncdan on January 14, 2019, 05:07:42 PM
How goes one clean out the cookies from their phone?
If the answer is to complicated just forget it.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: PJPR01 on January 14, 2019, 05:09:17 PM
All this mention of Montana, and the ads I am seeing are for Montana Timber.  Makes me want to go and ride the fabulous roads up there again!

Surely the OP must have taken into consideration that on a site that strictly bans political discussions as part of the rules of engagement, the chances of it being remotely connected, sponsored or aligned to any political advertising has to be zero.

Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: twowings on January 14, 2019, 05:57:00 PM
I don't see very many ads at all as I use Privacy Badger...available for most browsers...works swell

This is a link to a browser extension authored by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a well-known internet privacy advocate organization:
https://www.eff.org/privacybadger/faq#What-is-Privacy-Badger
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom on January 14, 2019, 06:30:03 PM
How goes one clean out the cookies from their phone?
If the answer is to complicated just forget it.

Try updating your phone first then clear your browser.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: ajpjive on January 14, 2019, 06:30:12 PM
I don't see very many ads at all as I use Privacy Badger...available for most browsers...works swell

This is a link to a browser extension authored by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a well-known internet privacy advocate organization:
https://www.eff.org/privacybadger/faq#What-is-Privacy-Badger

YES! Install this; Privacy Badger's great. Although it doesn't really impact the adds you're seeing, I'd also recommend installing HTTPS Everywhere, also by the EFF. A little more security is never a bad thing: https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: old head on January 14, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
How goes one clean out the cookies from their phone?
If the answer is to complicated just forget it.


Iphone go to settings, the scroll down to find safari, then scroll down to clear history
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom on January 14, 2019, 07:26:29 PM
 :thumb:  That'll do it.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: LowRyter on January 14, 2019, 08:05:41 PM
Who in the blue hell is this Wayfair Harbor Freight guy? 

Call for Mr Freight.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom on January 14, 2019, 08:06:19 PM
WTH have you been looking at.  :grin:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: bad Chad on January 14, 2019, 08:09:55 PM
I hope Spuds gets the irony of his post!
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: oldbike54 on January 14, 2019, 08:42:37 PM
 I must be like the most boring old man in Oklahoma , all I see are tire and insurance ads  :sad:

 Dusty
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: bad Chad on January 14, 2019, 09:45:09 PM
Im not even going to begin to tell you guys the kind of adds Im seeing!
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: pete roper on January 14, 2019, 09:47:01 PM
Oh! Did you get invited to 'Lesbian Spank Inferno' as well? How dull. Now I don't feel nearly as special! :sad:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Daniel Kalal on January 14, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
...I also get ads for caravans... The day I display any interest in a 'Toad' or becoming a 'Toadist' is the day...

A Wind-in-the-Willows literary reference in Wildgoose.com; nicely done, Pete.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on January 15, 2019, 04:05:33 AM
My ad is telling me to WATCH TV NOW and buy more stainless steel straws.  No, and ok.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: pete roper on January 15, 2019, 04:27:00 AM
We opted out of straws a while back. Horrid, unnecessary things. Great for kids parties but they can be waxed paper like when we were kids. I've started taking my own containers and bags to the butcher etc. yeah, it takes a tiny bit of forethought but it's just so easy.

Only political if you want to make it so. I only take my landfill bin out about once a month now which means we can lie in bed and not care if we forget. That's not politics! It's sloth! :wink:

Pete
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Aaron D. on January 15, 2019, 06:07:46 AM
Never liked straws.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 15, 2019, 06:44:02 AM
A Wind-in-the-Willows literary reference in Wildgoose.com; nicely done, Pete.

I'd wondered where the Toadist term came from.. but assumed it was one of Mr. Roper's Englisher things.  :smiley:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: twowheeladdict on January 15, 2019, 06:48:57 AM
I believe the ads you see are a result of YOUR browser history and have little or nothing to do with WG.

I.E. WG isn't choosing the ads you see and is not associating with any political party or ideology.

I hope not because I keep getting dating site banner ads.  Older ladies, foreign ladies, etc.  I am only on motorcycle sites and ebay.  Where is my wife searching?
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 15, 2019, 08:52:24 AM
I hope not because I keep getting dating site banner ads.  Older ladies, foreign ladies, etc.  I am only on motorcycle sites and ebay.  Where is my wife searching?

Yeah, that was my issue with
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the ads you see are a result of YOUR browser history
Some of those Russian girls *do* look pretty good, though.. :evil:  :smiley:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Toecutter on January 15, 2019, 08:58:14 AM
We opted out of straws a while back. Horrid, unnecessary things. Great for kids parties but they can be waxed paper like when we were kids. I've started taking my own containers and bags to the butcher etc. yeah, it takes a tiny bit of forethought but it's just so easy.

Only political if you want to make it so. I only take my landfill bin out about once a month now which means we can lie in bed and not care if we forget. That's not politics! It's sloth! :wink:

Pete

Reusable canavas grocery bags, homemade mesh produce bags, SS straws, recycle everything that can be, compost everything that can be,  toss out one small bag of garbage about every week and half. It's pretty easy to do, really.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 15, 2019, 09:14:00 AM
Reusable canavas grocery bags, homemade mesh produce bags, SS straws, recycle everything that can be, compost everything that can be,  toss out one small bag of garbage about every week and half. It's pretty easy to do, really.

We recycle, but around here, it's a pain. Everything has to be cleaned and sorted. No political rant following..  :smiley:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Toecutter on January 15, 2019, 09:25:37 AM
We recycle, but around here, it's a pain. Everything has to be cleaned and sorted. No political rant following..  :smiley:

Most places I've lived in Canada make it pretty damn easy. They do ask for some simple effort on the individual's part, but generally, it's drop and go.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Kev m on January 15, 2019, 09:42:17 AM
I hope not because I keep getting dating site banner ads.  Older ladies, foreign ladies, etc.  I am only on motorcycle sites and ebay.  Where is my wife searching?

As explained it's likely based on demographics. So something else you're searching for puts you in the same box as the ones searching for older, foreign ladies etc.

My wife and I share many social and google accounts (especially for a joint household google calendar that appears on both our phones if either updates it anywhere). It makes for interesting ads, especially on FB and TapaTalk. I mean, I know I'm getting a little older and maybe I'm not as fit as I once was, but I get an awful lot of Bra ads.  :shocked:   :laugh:   :boozing:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Lannis on January 15, 2019, 09:56:55 AM
Reusable canavas grocery bags, homemade mesh produce bags, SS straws, recycle everything that can be, compost everything that can be,  toss out one small bag of garbage about every week and half. It's pretty easy to do, really.

I need to do more of that.   

I always use canvas grocery bags although they're a pain to remember, but those flimsy plastic bags are the bane of the earth and oceans, so it's worth some trouble not to be a part of that lazy wasteful process.   I compost everything that can be composted too and have a compost heap of about 2 cubic yards now.   Plastic recycling is hard for the reasons already mentioned; you have to clean and sort by type of plastic, milk jug caps are different from milk jugs, etc., it's a mess but we may get there ...

I haven't yet figured out what "straws" and "SS straws" are in this context?   I know a drinking straw, but we don't use 6 of them a year totaling a fraction of a gram, and have never seen an "SS" one (stainless steel?)

Lannis 
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Toecutter on January 15, 2019, 10:21:44 AM
I need to do more of that.   

I always use canvas grocery bags although they're a pain to remember, but those flimsy plastic bags are the bane of the earth and oceans, so it's worth some trouble not to be a part of that lazy wasteful process.   I compost everything that can be composted too and have a compost heap of about 2 cubic yards now.   Plastic recycling is hard for the reasons already mentioned; you have to clean and sort by type of plastic, milk jug caps are different from milk jugs, etc., it's a mess but we may get there ...

I haven't yet figured out what "straws" and "SS straws" are in this context?   I know a drinking straw, but we don't use 6 of them a year totaling a fraction of a gram, and have never seen an "SS" one (stainless steel?)

Lannis

Stainless steel straws, I keep one in the 9L backpack that goes with me everywhere. My wife carries another. It's not so much "volume" of plastic, as it is "effect a straw can have"... like those damn 6 pack rings. Cutting waste for my wife and I is pretty much a hobby at this point. How little power we can use, how we can cut our water usage, spending a bit more to get more use out of a thing, repairing instead of replacing, keeping items even though they're a bit "behind the times" (Your TV is *only* 42 inches!!?? the horror!!). Archaic practice like using the sewing machine, and making rather than buying.

it's fun, it gives us something to do when there's "nothin' to do", and no... it's not always the smartest financially in the short term, but long term, it definitely pays off.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom H on January 15, 2019, 10:24:11 AM
What a thread drift :wink:

In  Los Angeles County, at least in my area, we get 3 bins. Regular trash (including dirty recyclables (like hamburger wrappers), one for recyclables (like milk jugs, soda cans, cardboard, ect.) and one for green (like yard clippings).  I probably put more in the recycle bin than I should, but if they don't want it, they know where their trash bin is. I end up taking one "tall kitchen" bag full of trash, 1/4 bin of recycle each week and once a month a green bin full. Pretty easy to do and it helps to keep from filling up the landfills.

I WANTED TO ADD.....in California many things like soda containers have a special recycle value that you pay when you buy the item. If you take them TO a recycle place rather than throw them in the bin, you get you money back as well as some value for the type of material. You can also take steel soup type cans, foil, brass and the like to many of the recycle places.

Shopping bags........I hate with a passion having to bring my own bags to the store!!! For one thing, they can get soiled by a leaky package of meat or the like and contaminate the bag. Now the next time you use it, it could contaminate what ever you put in it next time. Yes I have tried to wash them out, but the ones I have I don't think are washing machine safe.
The plastic bags that we used to get were nice. I at least, used the bags (non soiled ones) as lunch bags, soiled ones as trash bags and non soiled ones for any other things I might need to take somewhere. NOW I have to buy trash bags! Easy enough though to find something else to carry things with.

I like some of the answers to the ad issue :wink: It does help the site to pay the bills.

Tom
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Toecutter on January 15, 2019, 10:32:34 AM
What a thread drift :wink:

In  Los Angeles County, at least in my area, we get 3 bins. Regular trash (including dirty recyclables (like hamburger wrappers), one for recyclables (like milk jugs, soda cans, cardboard, ect.) and one for green (like yard clippings).  I probably put more in the recycle bin than I should, but if they don't want it, they know where their trash bin is. I end up taking one "tall kitchen" bag full of trash, 1/4 bin of recycle each week and once a month a green bin full. Pretty easy to do and it helps to keep from filling up the landfills.

Shopping bags........I hate with a passion having to bring my own bags to the store!!! For one thing, they can get soiled by a leaky package of meat or the like and contaminate the bag. Now the next time you use it, it could contaminate what ever you put in it next time. Yes I have tried to wash them out, but the ones I have I don't think are washing machine safe.
The plastic bags that we used to get were nice. I at least, used the bags (non soiled ones) as lunch bags, soiled ones as trash bags and non soiled ones for any other things I might need to take somewhere. NOW I have to buy trash bags! Easy enough though to find something else to carry things with.

I like some of the answers to the ad issue :wink: It does help the site to pay the bills.

Tom

Canvas bags. Machine washable, always stored in the vehicle, so we never "forget them". Plus, they never tear, you can carry about 4 times what the average t-shirt bag holds, and they're way more comfortable to hold, if you have to walk any distance. A lot of this stuff is a throwback to my "use my bicycle as a pickup truck" days in the city.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom H on January 15, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Toecutter, thanks for the info on canvas bags. My problem is that the ones I have now, are made from some sort of recycled canvas like material and may not hold up to machine washing. When these go bad, I guess I need to look into real canvas bags.

Tom
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Toecutter on January 15, 2019, 11:25:30 AM
Toecutter, thanks for the info on canvas bags. My problem is that the ones I have now, are made from some sort of recycled canvas like material and may not hold up to machine washing. When these go bad, I guess I need to look into real canvas bags.

Tom

If someone you know sews... old jeans make great bags too.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 15, 2019, 11:31:46 AM
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I WANTED TO ADD.....in California many things like soda containers have a special recycle value that you pay when you buy the item. If you take them TO a recycle place rather than throw them in the bin, you get you money back as well as some value for the type of material. You can also take steel soup type cans, foil, brass and the like to many of the recycle places.

That is another good thing about California. While I'm making my rounds of fountains to get change out of.. :shocked:  I pick up that stuff and turn it in. On a good day, I can make enough money to get me a sack of wine for the evening.. :cool: :boozing:
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Toecutter on January 15, 2019, 11:37:46 AM
That is another good thing about California. While I'm making my rounds of fountains to get change out of.. :shocked:  I pick up that stuff and turn it in. On a good day, I can make enough money to get me a sack of wine for the evening.. :cool: :boozing:

beverage containers (domestic) all have a deposit on them up here. So you get the deposit back if you return them to sorting depot. Many do, many find it too much work. However, the added benefit of the deposit system is that it creates a built-in recycling program, as those who are down on their luck will put in the effort to retrieve them from the public trashcans.

 You *can* collect tin and steel to return for cash, but to scrapyards for whatever the going rate per pound is. You can imagine who much you need to make it worth it, so that stuff is generally just put in the recycling bin.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: LowRyter on January 15, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
We recycle, but around here, it's a pain. Everything has to be cleaned and sorted. No political rant following..  :smiley:

Yes,  Bev insists on washing all the recycles.  I have to wonder what the environmental savings is net, once she opens the tap?
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Toecutter on January 15, 2019, 12:30:01 PM
Yes,  Bev insists on washing all the recycles.  I have to wonder what the environmental savings is net, once she opens the tap?

Water is... as long as it's not trapped in a container... infinitely recyclable. Most recycling depots can't handle foodstained materials.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: bad Chad on January 15, 2019, 12:40:34 PM
I second Toecutter on this.  It takes very little food wast to make a item not suitable for recycling, best to clean it off as well as is practical.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: LowRyter on January 15, 2019, 12:41:04 PM
Water is... as long as it's not trapped in a container... infinitely recyclable. Most recycling depots can't handle foodstained materials.

yes, but the fuel used to pump it, clean it and pipe it, ain't free.

She ain't usin' rainwater. 

I make a point of never cleaning anything meant for trash or recycle.  This causes all kinds of domestic disharmony. 
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Tom H on January 15, 2019, 12:50:10 PM
When I take my aluminum cans and plastic bottles in, I bring in a few 40 gallon bags of each at a time. Definitely makes it worth while saving them for a few months or so.

When I take those in, the place I go to also takes scrap aluminum, wire, brass and the like. I don't bother with soup cans or foil, but a used heat exchanger from a boat can get me a decent amount back. You don't get the deposit added value for aluminum scrap, but the scrap value isn't bad.

For the items in the recycle bin, as long as it's clean enough to not draw ants to the bin, I toss it in. If it's too dirty, it goes into a trash bag then into the trash can. Why waste the water in Ca. to clean it first. I do rinse plastic TV dinner trays though, then the cardboard and plastic goes in the recycle bin.

Tom
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: Toecutter on January 15, 2019, 01:09:06 PM
yes, but the fuel used to pump it, clean it and pipe it, ain't free.

She ain't usin' rainwater. 

I make a point of never cleaning anything meant for trash or recycle.  This causes all kinds of domestic disharmony.

IN that case, you're just using the recycle depot as an alternate trash pickup. They can't do anything with it, so it gets garbaged.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: LowRyter on January 15, 2019, 03:20:10 PM
IN that case, you're just using the recycle depot as an alternate trash pickup. They can't do anything with it, so it gets garbaged.

I thought they sorted and washed it at the recycle's.
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: pete roper on January 15, 2019, 06:42:36 PM
I'd wondered where the Toadist term came from.. but assumed it was one of Mr. Roper's Englisher things.  :smiley:

Nah. In fact it wasn't even a Wind in the Willows reference to be honest, (Although it obviously fits Beep Beep! :grin:).

Jude and I coined the term after being stuck behind interminable queues of inadequate vehicles towing caravans, I think in Scotland?? Caravans are 'Towed' behind a car, ipso facto they became 'Toads'. Most of them bear a more than passing resemblance to amphibious reptiles as well. Extrapolating from there obviously the owner/operator of the Toad must be a Toadist! It's all perfectly logical!

There are also 'Self propelled Toads', Winnebogans and the like that have a motor and steering wheel although actually 'Driving' them rather than just aimlessly passing along a road and ricocheting off other vehicles seems to be anathema to their owners.......

Pete
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: LowRyter on January 15, 2019, 09:00:19 PM
Toadists driving Winnebogans........ .. my goodness. 
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: pete roper on January 15, 2019, 09:21:14 PM
beverage containers (domestic) all have a deposit on them up here. So you get the deposit back if you return them to sorting depot. Many do, many find it too much work. However, the added benefit of the deposit system is that it creates a built-in recycling program, as those who are down on their luck will put in the effort to retrieve them from the public trashcans.

 You *can* collect tin and steel to return for cash, but to scrapyards for whatever the going rate per pound is. You can imagine who much you need to make it worth it, so that stuff is generally just put in the recycling bin.

Every state in Oz nowadays, except for some reason Victoria, has a refund system in place for bottles and cans and such. My youngest son who is 25 and lives in a typical share-hovel in Canberra thinks it's great. You just scan your phone on the pad at the maw of the 'Returns' facility and then stuff in your cans/bottles etc. for whatever the return is. It's not much but the app on the phone which acts as an identifier gets told at the end of the process how much has been *earnt* and it is then deposited into your bank account. No cash involved and for someone like my boy he has a dedicated account at his bank it goes into and it never gets touched until the utilities bills come in every three months. 'Cos he takes all our bottles and cans too he's actually finding that he effectively voids his electricity bill every quarter! All his housemates piss and moan at bill time, he just goes and empties his recycling account.

Needless to say anything over and above the bill amount can then be blown on grog and trying to persuade young ladies into his filthy, (But at least well lit!) abode!

Pete
Title: Re: POLITICAL ADS ON WG
Post by: fossil on January 16, 2019, 05:37:48 AM
And I thought we Germans were the real muster students in the world regarding environmentally awareness and all Americans plastic bag - throwing truck drivers. You put me on shame!