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Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« on: March 24, 2019, 01:36:49 PM »
To install the givi engine guards, it looks like I need to remove the bolts that link the upper and lower part of the frame.  Besides only doing one side at a time, anything else to consider?

Never installed engine guards before.  Looks straightforward but removing the frame bolts did give me pause.  :huh:

The shop said it doesn't need locktite and there's no torque spec.

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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2019, 01:49:27 PM »
Well, some blue loctite wouldn't hurt anything... It's a fairly large diameter screw for a narrow flange, so it could potentially loosen. The general recommendation/ standard for self-locking screw design is that the flange diameter is ~5x as tick as the screw diameter, which isn't true in this case (but e.g. very true for cylinder head studs).


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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2019, 05:38:39 PM »
Locktight it
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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2019, 08:59:06 PM »
Thanks to you both.  Blue loctite it is.

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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2019, 09:44:35 AM »
I put a floor jack under the engine with just enough pressure to keep it from moving when I installed the MG engine guard.
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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2019, 02:29:23 PM »
Not a bad idea.  I don't think I have my hydraulic floor jack any more but even a scissor jack with a hefty and wide piece of wood would work. 

Out of curiosity:  have you seen them/heard about them moving or simply a precaution?

Were the bolts reasonably easy to remove or a pain in the patoot?
I did get a set of hex bits for my 3/8" ratchet.  Thought that would be better than trying to wrestle a regular hex key.  Even if it wasn't necessary, it was still a good excuse.   :wink:

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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2019, 02:34:45 PM »
I've done this both times I've installed sliders on our V7s.

The first time I used a jack to support it and worked on one side at a time.

Just last week I did it on the V7D and was able (because of the slider design) only remove one bolt at a time so I didn't even use a jack. I imagine you could remove a bolt and temporarily put a small pin or stud through the frame holes to keep them from possibly moving.

Yes a hex bit (instead of a hex wrench) is handy.

The nuts on the back seem to be captured from turning by the frame, but I still put a backup wrench on them when tightening just to be sure.
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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2019, 04:29:48 PM »
Not a bad idea.  I don't think I have my hydraulic floor jack any more but even a scissor jack with a hefty and wide piece of wood would work. 

Out of curiosity:  have you seen them/heard about them moving or simply a precaution?

Were the bolts reasonably easy to remove or a pain in the patoot?
I did get a set of hex bits for my 3/8" ratchet.  Thought that would be better than trying to wrestle a regular hex key.  Even if it wasn't necessary, it was still a good excuse.   :wink:

There is always a risk of moving. 

On many of my bikes the aftermarket engine guards would use engine mounts and some guys would get themselves into trouble.  Better safe than sorry. 

Of course, like Kev said, still do one side at a time.
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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2019, 11:06:31 PM »
I did one side at a time on my 2105 V7.  No issues-did not even need a jack.
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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2019, 01:38:23 AM »
I ground up a short podger to line the first hole up and put the bolts semi snugly in. then use the jack/engine hoist/levers to line up the second.
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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2019, 06:57:41 AM »
I did one side at a time on my 2105 V7.  No issues-did not even need a jack.

Better to have it there and not need it, than to find out you needed it and didn't have it there.   :angel:
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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2019, 11:39:39 AM »
Kev, which engine guards do you use?

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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2019, 11:46:43 AM »
Kev, which engine guards do you use?

I used sliders on both my V7s. Over Racing for the Stone and Sato Racing for the Dark.

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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2019, 02:21:39 PM »
Looking good, Iíll check them out.

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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2019, 07:38:35 PM »
Looking good, Iíll check them out.

I find extra lighting important, which is why I installed the Guzzi engine guards. 



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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2019, 03:35:48 PM »
Nice ride!

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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2019, 03:41:16 PM »
Engine guards are finally installed.  Very anticlimactic.
I did end up using a jack as insurance but now that I've done it once, I think it would have been fine without.
Blue Loctite was used.
I did one side at a time.
The Guzzi and the Givi bolts/nuts were different sizes.  Not a problem, just a note.
The hex bits were REALLY handy but they hadn't torqued the heck out of the bolts so they weren't hard to get off.
I like 'em!




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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2019, 03:53:24 PM »
Engine guards are finally installed.  Very anticlimactic.
I did end up using a jack as insurance but now that I've done it once, I think it would have been fine without.
Blue Loctite was used.
I did one side at a time.
The Guzzi and the Givi bolts/nuts were different sizes.  Not a problem, just a note.
The hex bits were REALLY handy but they hadn't torqued the heck out of the bolts so they weren't hard to get off.
I like 'em!




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Congrats.  Different sizes?  Or different lengths?
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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2019, 04:02:59 PM »
Different sizes meaning I needed a different hex bit for the bolt head and wrench for the nut.  I think the length was the same or near to it.

I also wanted to say:  Thank You to everyone who had suggestions and shared their experience.

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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2019, 05:14:08 PM »
1) I like your color choice
2) The engine guards are a good place to mount driving lights



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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2019, 05:25:29 PM »
1) I like your color choice

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How much do lights like that pull?  I like the placement; it must really light up the road.



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Re: Question on installing engine guards on v7iii
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2019, 06:53:58 AM »
:thumb:

I'm trying to save all my spare watts for heated gear.  Just got this in the mail
https://www.aerostich.com/aerostich-electric-warmbib.html


How much do lights like that pull?  I like the placement; it must really light up the road.

My lights are LED and don't pull much.  Of course you can shut them off when using your heat.  Mine are for conspicuity during the daytime.  Need all the help we can get making sure drivers see us. 
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