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96 Cali brake/signal light trouble
« on: April 06, 2019, 02:42:29 PM »
Hi,

 New to me as of today...1996 Cali i

 96 Cali i
 
 
 Front left signal light broke at mount. Disconnected it and removed till I get a replacement.
 
 At this time no brake lights
 
 When I hit the brake light (pedal or lever) the left rear signal light comes on but no brake light.

 Also the left signal indicator on the dash comes on at the same time as well.
 
 Suggestions to start?

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Re: 96 Cali brake/signal light trouble
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2019, 02:48:54 PM »
Odd. Maybe a ground fault.

Besides those plastic brake light reflectors melting and failing, in those years the taillight wiring under the rear fender could rub the tire and get damaged.

Look for a damaged wire under the fender. And inspect the plastic reflectors.

Still not sure why the brake and right turn signal and interacting though.
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Re: 96 Cali brake/signal light trouble
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2019, 03:04:33 PM »
Good advice Wayne...I do need and pull the bulbs, inspect the reflectors and make sure the correct bulbs are installed. I also thought there might be one of those "special brake light boxes' installed.

 Is the fuse/relay configuration the same as on a 1998 EV?

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Odd. Maybe a ground fault.

Besides those plastic brake light reflectors melting and failing, in those years the taillight wiring under the rear fender could rub the tire and get damaged.

Look for a damaged wire under the fender. And inspect the plastic reflectors.

Still not sure why the brake and right turn signal and interacting though.
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2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 1100

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Re: 96 Cali brake/signal light trouble
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2019, 08:29:52 PM »
I had the same issue with my '97 Cali Anniversary.  The problem was the poor contact of the rear light unit on the bulbs themselves.

After much frustration, I soldered them in, including the common connection around the brass base of the bulbs.  I figured I wouldn't have to change the bulbs that often, and in fact never did.  Later, I swapped out the bulbs for LED units.

Dunno about the left signal light, these should be on a separate circuit.

This wiring diagram should help.  http://www.thisoldtractor.com/guzzi007/schematics/1996_California_1100i.gif



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Re: 96 Cali brake/signal light trouble
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2019, 10:56:22 PM »
Is this fuse/relay layout the same on the 1996 Cali?

1998 V11EV WIRING CIRCUIT PLAN
VIEWED FROM THE RIGHT SIDE
REAR TOWARD FRONT

RELAY #1   Starter
RELAY #2   Horn
RELAY #3   Side Stand Safety
RELAY #4   Headlight
FUSE #1   Fuel Petcock
FUSE #2   Turn Signal Flasher Parking Light Instrument lights
FUSE #3   Brake Light (foot) Horn Starter Solenoid
FUSE #4   Brake Light (hand) Headlights Charging Tachometer Idiot Lights
RELAY #5   Fuel Injectors Computer Relay #6
FUSE #5   Fuel Pump Relay Fuel Injectors - Computer
FUSE #6   Fuel Pump - Coils
RELAY #6   Fuel Pump Coils
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Re: 96 Cali brake/signal light trouble
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2019, 08:56:15 AM »
That info should be on a sticker on inside of side cover.
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Re: 96 Cali brake/signal light trouble
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2019, 11:12:53 AM »
Odd. Maybe a ground fault.

Besides those plastic brake light reflectors melting and failing, in those years the taillight wiring under the rear fender could rub the tire and get damaged.

Look for a damaged wire under the fender. And inspect the plastic reflectors.

Still not sure why the brake and right turn signal and interacting though.

Found damaged wires under fender. Called Harper's and ordered a new tail-light harness. I figured that would be a good place to start.

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