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EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« on: December 31, 2014, 03:41:52 PM »
Okay, I forgot [who hasn't?]

Which is/are the best applications/utilities to slam other bidders at the last few seconds of an auction?  Quick, hurry...

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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2014, 04:25:15 PM »
I use esnipe.com .
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2014, 06:08:54 PM »
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2014, 06:58:03 PM »
I've always liked JBid Watcher.
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2014, 08:35:53 PM »
I use "this is my maximum bid" and then stop watching. If someone wants it for more it's theirs! :BEER: :BEER:
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2014, 10:00:06 PM »
I've always liked JBid Watcher.
https://www.jbidwatcher.com/

Me too.  I've been using that for many years.  It's free and available for Linux, Mac, and Windows.
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2014, 10:05:09 PM »
I've been using Bidnapper for several years.  It never fails me.  It's a good tool.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2015, 08:13:03 AM »
 :+1  esnipe.

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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2015, 08:17:30 AM »
auctionsniper.com

I tried a couple different programs that run on your own PC, but, got tired of missing out on bids because my crappy Verizon DSL connection (this was a while ago) was down.   Auction sniper has been reliable, and the fees are low enough that I'm willing to pay them.
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2015, 11:32:46 AM »
I use "this is my maximum bid" and then stop watching. If someone wants it for more it's theirs! :BEER: :BEER:

Same here.  eBay can bid just as fast for you as any of the add-on programs.

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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2015, 11:46:49 AM »
I use "this is my maximum bid" and then stop watching. If someone wants it for more it's theirs! :BEER: :BEER:
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2015, 11:49:43 AM »
Same here.  eBay can bid just as fast for you as any of the add-on programs.

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The trouble is that there will always be bidders that see another person's bid and top it, even though they had previously bid their "maximum".  I learned this the hard way the first time I used eBay.  Bidding 5 seconds before the end eliminates that effect.  If you bid earlier than 5 or 10 seconds from the end, there's a pretty high probability that you'll pay more if you still win.
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2015, 12:19:22 PM »
 If you bid earlier than 5 or 10 seconds from the end, there's a pretty high probability that you'll pay more if you still win.

That's why I used the word "Maximum".   I don't want to "still win".   I want to get the part for my price.   If they other guy wants it more than I do, I'm ecstatic if he gets it .....

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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2015, 12:24:09 PM »
I think I probably worded that clumsily.  What I meant was that if you bid more than about 10 seconds before the end and win, the chances are good that you will pay more (closer to your maximum bid) than if you wait.
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2015, 12:39:30 PM »
I think I probably worded that clumsily.  What I meant was that if you bid more than about 10 seconds before the end and win, the chances are good that you will pay more (closer to your maximum bid) than if you wait.

I really don't believe that.

Sniping only works if your final bid with the sniping software is set high enough to beat other snipers.

If you have a price in your head that you are willing to pay, then just put in a proxy bid and fugetaboutit.

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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2015, 01:28:53 PM »
I think I probably worded that clumsily.  What I meant was that if you bid more than about 10 seconds before the end and win, the chances are good that you will pay more (closer to your maximum bid) than if you wait.



I tend to agree with you Jim but isn't the deal breaker come when other people are using Ebay's bidding system? When other people are using eBay bidding it neutralizes using the 3rd party software... or am I just confused? It seems that when I watch items that there are obviously a couple of people using ebay's automatic bid. You can tell by looking at how the bidding proceeds. The one advantage I see in the 3rd party software is they have high speed computers with high speed connections so they can make a bid a 2 seconds and count on getting it there in time.
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2015, 01:47:22 PM »
I have never used a proxy. Its easy to get a bid in within 2 seconds or better especially now that eBay has a real time clock running. The only time you might need a proxy is if you won't be close to a computer when the auction ends.

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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2015, 02:29:29 PM »
I have never used a proxy. Its easy to get a bid in within 2 seconds or better especially now that eBay has a real time clock running. The only time you might need a proxy is if you won't be close to a computer when the auction ends.

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This.

My auction game plan is to decide how much I want to pay and try to enter the bid with 2sec or less remaining.  If it's not a high enough bid, I couldn't afford the item (and the winner got the price bumped up).  If it is the high bid then nobody has time to react to it.  Either way it's like having a single bullet -- hit or miss, you get the one shot, only.

Another detail I look for is when the auction ends.  I get stuff for lower bids when the auction ends 5:AM NY time.  Auctions that close during business hours on a weekday are often crazy high.

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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2015, 02:48:36 PM »
Sniping only works if your final bid with the sniping software is set high enough to beat other snipers.

Correct.  If I set my snipe to be the maximum I'm willing to pay, and that's higher than everyone else's maximum, I'll win.  But if I bid and let eBay's proxy bidding do the work, it's entirely likely that:

1.  Someone will raise his maximum when he sees my bid, possibly repeating until he beats my bid, or
2.  Someone will raise his maximum bid when he sees my bid, but not repeating until he beats my bid, allowing me to win, but causing my proxy bidding to be raised.

The only way I can pick a maximum amount I'm willing to spend and count on that number not getting other bidders excited so they raise their bids is to snipe.  
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2015, 04:48:09 PM »

Another detail I look for is when the auction ends.  I get stuff for lower bids when the auction ends 5:AM NY time.  Auctions that close during business hours on a weekday are often crazy high.

When I used to sell stuff, I'd start the auction in the evening.  6pm, 7pm, 8pm.  That way, I knew a lot of potential bidders would be home and available to bid when the auction was ending a few nights later. I also liked to end auctions on Sunday evenings.  There always seemed to be a lot of activity on Sunday evenings.

I agree that bidding on items with odd end times makes them easier to buy cheaper.
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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2015, 07:29:42 AM »
Hmm , don't think *competitive Ebay bidding* will ever be an Olympic sport  ;D

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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2015, 10:38:33 AM »
I don't know Dusty. When you can attach a rag on the end of a stick and wave it around to win an gold some sort of competitive bidding can't be far behind.   ::)  :BEER:
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2015, 01:23:21 PM »
As a seller, I have never been jerked around by anyone using a sniper.  I like it on both sides.  Set it and forget it.  Bidnapper lets me bid several auctions.  Say I want to buy a widget and I don't want to pay over $10.  I sit down and find 16 sellers with auctions for widgets.  I put several of them into the Bidnapper program with a $10 bid.  It automatically moves from one auction to the next until I win, then it automatically stops and sends me an email to check in and pay.  I like it!  I won't get involved in an auction without it.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2015, 02:20:08 PM »
I "buy it now" far more  than I bid on ebay.  Many items are I buy are not auction items. What I find interesting is that many ebay stores also have internet stores. And they often charge more for the same product in their internet store than on the ebay store. I think competition on the ebay drives the prices down. You have to look carefully to not get a bogus product but I find a lot of new name brand products far cheaper than retail on ebay. I have returned a couple of items but I have only been burned once.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2015, 02:46:33 PM »
I "buy it now" far more  than I bid on ebay.  Many items are I buy are not auction items. What I find interesting is that many ebay stores also have internet stores. And they often charge more for the same product in their internet store than on the ebay store. I think competition on the ebay drives the prices down. You have to look carefully to not get a bogus product but I find a lot of new name brand products far cheaper than retail on ebay. I have returned a couple of items but I have only been burned once.

As a counterpoint: 

I paid $135 for an item online yesterday from a retailer's website for $30 less than anyone had them advertised on Ebay.   

Free shipping for orders over $99 from the retailer.  The Ebayers were charging for shipping.

It pays to search around.
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2015, 06:40:59 PM »
As a counterpoint:  

I paid $135 for an item online yesterday from a retailer's website for $30 less than anyone had them advertised on Ebay.  

Free shipping for orders over $99 from the retailer.  The Ebayers were charging for shipping.

It pays to search around.


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Re: EBAY BIDDING UTILITIES
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2015, 09:18:08 PM »
The only time you might need a proxy is if you won't be close to a computer when the auction ends.

That's when I signed up with one -- justsniper.com, free, worked without any trouble the few times I've used it.  Have to work, have to be somewhere, don't want to run away in the middle of dinner, just don't want to have to remember - they'll take care of it.

 

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