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Tailgaters
« on: March 04, 2015, 02:07:26 PM »
It's worse than ever. Some of them get closer when I politely give the back off hand wave. Yeah, I know it's illegal to do but dammit, I'm thinking of adding smoke or flames from the exhaust. A bit of diesel through the emissions test bung at the header. Viberider shows a flame set-up. About 5k and hit the switch. "Bubble the paint for you sir?"

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2015, 02:19:26 PM »
And of course tapping the brake might get you killed. Sigh.

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2015, 02:26:33 PM »
You're fighting a losing battle.

Best to just move right and wave 'em past.

If it's busy multi-lane traffic, I don't think there's much you can do...
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2015, 02:29:18 PM »
One man's slow is another man's lugging. Nope. Tapping the brake sometimes works. For others its like a red blanket to a bull.

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2015, 02:32:19 PM »
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it takes two to tailgate.

what a load of bollox.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2015, 02:36:08 PM »
 A giant mirror facing rearwards  ;D

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2015, 02:40:06 PM »
what a load of bollox.

Not really.  If you're moving slower than the flow of traffic, people are going to bunch up behind you.

On paper, No, they shouldn't.  They should keep a safe distance.  In the real world, if you're riding too slow for the flow of traffic, you'll be tailgaited.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2015, 03:09:13 PM »
It's worse than ever. Some of them get closer when I politely give the back off hand wave. Yeah, I know it's illegal to do but dammit, I'm thinking of adding smoke or flames from the exhaust. A bit of diesel through the emissions test bung at the header. Viberider shows a flame set-up. About 5k and hit the switch. "Bubble the paint for you sir?"

Probably there's a Master's thesis in sociology in the study of tailgating.    For example, there's a BIG rise lately in this part of the country of people embezzling money from the Fire Department or Rescue Squad or Church association for whom they are treasurer, two Credit Unions have had millions stolen from them by their managers (one CU went under), and two county treasurers were fired (one jailed) for theft of money for which they were responsible.    Someone could probably explain why that's happening in terms of the entitlement and materialism trend today.

Similar with tailgating.   Why do people do something that's so aggressive and dangerous and makes them into such an arsewipe?   Do they not see it?   Do they not care?   Do they think it's a good thing?   

We're especially sensitive to it on our bikes, because they will stop faster than a car and because a collision isn't just a dent and an insurance claim (usually).   Maybe it SEEMS like it's happening more often because there are more cars on the road today than there used to be?   

I'm like you - I wish that a flamethrower or bazooka or caltrop dispenser were something that could be deployed, just to give the clueless driver something to think about and to dispense justice on the highways ....

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2015, 03:13:49 PM »
Best to just move right and wave 'em past.

I started doing that about ten years ago and my blood pressure is better off for it.  The only bit of advice I'll add is don't pull back into the lane and accelerate immediately after the car passes, because some drivers take that to mean you're going to get even by tailgating them, and react poorly.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2015, 03:19:23 PM »
I like to ride alone and let tailgaters go by and then bye bye

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2015, 03:23:06 PM »
Why do people do something that's so aggressive and dangerous  --

A couple of thoughts:

Motorcycle is smaller so the depth perception effect might make it seem farther.

Motorcycle is smaller, so it can be bullied.


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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2015, 03:34:51 PM »
It seems to me lately the cars are going a lot faster than a couple of years back.
I used to be the fastest thing on the motorway, now all the cars fly by at least doing 80 or 90

Perhaps I'm just getting old ???
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2015, 04:02:18 PM »
It seems to me lately the cars are going a lot faster than a couple of years back.
I used to be the fastest thing on the motorway, now all the cars fly by at least doing 80 or 90

Perhaps I'm just getting old ???

Maybe, I know I am, but when I was young, if you were going 80 in a car, you were very aware of it, with all the noise and bouncing around and effort to keep it going the right direction.  Now you can be going 80 in a car as effortlessly as when you're going 30, so every Bozo who feels the urge does it.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2015, 04:10:34 PM »
Dumbs&$ts that hog the hammer lane hack me off about as bad as the tailgaters. Passing on the right is a very dangerous practice too. Especially when vehicles with a larger than average blind spot over the right shoulder are involved. Remember to stay out of the no zone on the highway. Good idea for all vehicles not just big trucks.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2015, 04:11:18 PM »
You're fighting a losing battle.

Best to just move right and wave 'em past.

If you're being tailgated and you're in the left lane, then you're riding too slowly. Even if (or especially if) the guy is a maniac wanting to drive 100 mph or whatever. Slower traffic to the right.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2015, 04:18:11 PM »
Isn't the rule if you’re not overtaking anything yourself move over?

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2015, 04:24:21 PM »
Isn't the rule if you’re not overtaking anything yourself move over?

It's the law in some states, and good etiquette everywhere else.   

In Europe, they're dead serious about it.   You can get pulled over for riding in the fast lane if you're not passing something, and "passing on the right" is about like a DUI here.   A truck driver doing it will lose his CDL.   Here, it's just normal practice.

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2015, 04:25:25 PM »
Isn't the rule if you’re not overtaking anything yourself move over?

As long as your on a four lane road.....yes.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2015, 04:26:28 PM »
If you're being tailgated and you're in the left lane, then you're riding too slowly. Even if (or especially if) the guy is a maniac wanting to drive 100 mph or whatever. Slower traffic to the right.

Agreed. The left lane is called the passing lane for a reason. My personal favorite is when people tailgate me when I am allowing for a safe following distance behind a slower driver on a single lane road....

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2015, 04:30:53 PM »
  Most of them do it for the same reason a dog licks his balls.
  Because it feels good and because they can.
  Take down his number for later reference when you can Pass the parked car at speed and loft a rock into his windshield.
  That will feel almost as good as licking your balls.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2015, 04:37:18 PM »
 Here, it's just normal practice.

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2015, 04:43:17 PM »
The trend on the highways I travel it seems the left lane is the drive slow because I'm on the phone lane.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2015, 04:51:26 PM »
A giant mirror facing rearwards  ;D

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2015, 04:54:28 PM »
My wife suggested a windshield cleaner reservoir in the saddle bag, a pump and the sprayer pointed back.

The law about moving is well intended, but when everybody on a four lane road is going 80 or more and the clown who thinks we'll all move for him so he can do 90 or more comes along, then it's difficult to appease him. When he hangs four foot off my tail light I get bothered.

I think a mounted camera and a flash trigger would be effective.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2015, 05:02:26 PM »
My wife suggested a windshield cleaner reservoir in the saddle bag, a pump and the sprayer pointed back.

The law about moving is well intended, but when everybody on a four lane road is going 80 or more and the clown who thinks we'll all move for him so he can do 90 or more comes along, then it's difficult to appease him. When he hangs four foot off my tail light I get bothered.

I think a mounted camera and a flash trigger would be effective.

I'll still get out of his way, I'm not a traffic cop, it's not for me to tell him how to drive. If I end up highway pizza I still loose no matter who's fault it is.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2015, 05:32:38 PM »
I hate it when I'm speeding in the slow lane and they are still tailgating me and there is no one in the fast lane. I have actually moved to the fast lane to let them pass me and 9 out of 10 times they are not turning right. My assumption is that they are just flat out stupid.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2015, 05:35:22 PM »
Not really.  If you're moving slower than the flow of traffic, people are going to bunch up behind you.

On paper, No, they shouldn't.  They should keep a safe distance.  In the real world, if you're riding too slow for the flow of traffic, you'll be tailgaited.

The sad thing is:  if you run with traffic and they are all speeding, and you get picked out of the litter by the cop... you still get a ticket..
That's a lesson I learned.. so what do you do?
The only thing I can think of is get over to the right and let the multi lanes go by you unless you want to risk a ticket with the rest of them.
Oh.. and don't have a bright red vehicle.. I love them.. but never again..
3 tickets with a slow bright red vehicle and zero with a black corvette in my previous history..

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2015, 06:23:46 PM »
I can't go any faster than the car in front of me and this guy still won't get off my ass. I an not going too slow. I am keeping up with traffic.
I think the 'being tailgated' feeling is sometimes exagerated by the fact that our mirrors are at the same height as headlights.
Tailgating at 80 mph is rampant in the Seattle area.
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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2015, 06:44:20 PM »
A rusty lugnut produced from the rider's left breast pocket and lobbed as inconspicuously as possible over the rider's left shoulder will make a resounding CRACK when it hits the tailgater's windshield.

Not sayin' I would ever do such a deed but I have read about it on the internet.

Repeatedly.

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Re: Tailgaters
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2015, 06:55:05 PM »
My Norge has a Whelen TIR3 for an extra brake light. For some reason, I don't get tailgated much  ;)
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