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Re: You know that Vincent you couldn't afford?, CL, ny
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2018, 02:38:07 AM »
I'm glad the RC51 Vincent never came to be. There's something just not right with that. On the other hand, the Irving Vincents hit all of my buttons.

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Re: You know that Vincent you couldn't afford?, CL, ny
« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2018, 05:15:28 AM »
 Bring back Vincent? The Vincent was a machine of it's time...The old Indian and Triumph were machines of their time and the new ones share zero with the old ones except the name...You want a new Vincent? Buy a Ducati...... :wink:
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Re: You know that Vincent you couldn't afford?, CL, ny
« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2018, 08:41:47 AM »
Lol brother, I'll give you credit for one thing for sure, you definitely have the ability to read between the lines :)

So do you.   You couldn't have survived a career as a law enforcement officer if you couldn't "read between the lines".

When you stopped someone in a car on a lonely North Carolina backroad, the only "lines" you had were "20-something tattooed white male in an old Toyota license plate ALB-113".    That was it.   

Everything else was reading BETWEEN the lines.   "He's nervous.   Keeps looking over in the passenger floorboard.   Doesn't give the same answers to the same questions.   Has a bulge in his beltline on the right hip.   Dilated pupils .... " and so on.   None of what you are seeing "between the lines" PROVES anything.    People can second-guess you and say "But how did you KNOW?"

But you've seen it before a dozen times, and it always means the same thing.   And so you act accordingly.   If you're wrong in your deduction, then it means an apology or a gig on your record, and you've learned.   If you're right, it means you live another day, and a successful arrest, and you've learned again.   

That's all I'm doing.   I've interacted with thousands of people regarding motorcycles in 48 years, and I find that I'm getting fairly good at "guessing" at the balance of probability ....

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Re: You know that Vincent you couldn't afford?, CL, ny
« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2018, 10:58:51 AM »
Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72 (1973)
After Miami the calendar shows a bit of rest on the political front -- but not for me: I have to come back out to California and ride that goddamn fiendish Vincent Black Shadow again, for the road tests. The original plan was to deal with the beast in my off-hours during the California primary coverage, but serious problems developed.

 Ten days before the election -- with McGovern apparently so far ahead that most of the press people were looking for ways to avoid covering the final week -- I drove out to Ventura, a satellite town just north of L.A. in the San Fernando Valley, to pick up the bugger and use it to cover the rest of the primary. Greg Jackson, an ABC correspondent who used to race motorcycles, went along with me. We were both curious about this machine. Chris Bunche, editor of Choppers magazine, said it was so fast and terrible that it made the extremely fast Honda 750 seem like a harmless toy.

This proved to be absolutely true. I rode a factory-demo Honda for a while, just to get the feel of being back on a serious road-runner again . . . and it seemed just fine: very quick, very powerful, very easy in the hands, one-touch electric starter. A very civilized machine, in all, and I might even be tempted to buy one if I didn't have the same gut distaste for Hondas that the American Honda management has for Rolling Stone. They don't like the image. "You meet the nicest people on a Honda," they say -- but according to a letter from American Honda to the Rolling Stone ad manager, none of these nicest people have much stomach for a magazine like the Stone.

Which is probably just as well; because if you're a safe, happy, nice, young Republican you probably don't want to read about things like dope, rock music and politics anyway. You want to stick with Time, and for weekend recreation do a bit of the laid-back street-cruising on your big fast Honda 750. . . maybe burn a Sportster or a Triumph here or there, just for the fun of it: But nothing serious, because when you start that kind of thing you don't meet many nice people.

Jesus! Another tangent, and right up front, this time -- the whole lead, in fact, completely fucked.

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But first things first. We were talking about motorcycles. Jackson and I were out there in Ventura f***ing around with a 750 Honda and an experimental prototype of the new Vincent -- a 1000-cc brute that proved to be so awesomely fast that I didn't even have time to get scared of it before I found myself coming up on a highway stoplight at ninety miles an hour and then skidding halfway through the intersection with both wheel-brakes locked.

A genuinely hellish bike. Second gear peaks around 65 -- cruising speed on the freeways -- and third winds out somewhere between 95 and 100. I never got to fourth, which takes you up to 120 or so -- and after that you shift into fifth.

 

Top speed is 140, more or less, depending on how the thing is tuned -- but there is nowhere in Los Angeles County to run a bike like that. I managed to get it back from Ventura to McGovern's downtown headquarters hotel, staying mainly in second gear, but the vibration almost fused my wrist bones and boiling oil from the breather pipes turned my right foot completely black. Later, when I tried to start it up for another test-run, the backlash from the kick-starter almost broke my leg. For two days afterward I limped around with a golfball-sized blood-bruise in my right arch.

Later in the week I tried the bastard again, but it stalled on a ramp leading up to the Hollywood Freeway and I almost broke my hand when I exploded in a stupid, screaming rage and punched the gas tank. After that I locked it up and left it in the hotel parking lot -- where it sat for many days with a MCGOVERN FOR PRESIDENT tag on the handlebars.

George never mentioned it, and when I suggested to Gary Hart that the Senator might like to take the machine out for a quick test-ride and some photos for the national press, I got almost exactly the same reaction that Mankiewicz laid on me in Florida when I suggested that McGovern could pick up a million or so votes by inviting the wire-service photographers to come out and snap him lounging around on the beach with a can of beer in his hand and wearing my Grateful Dead T-shirt.



 
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Re: You know that Vincent you couldn't afford?, CL, ny
« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2018, 12:16:57 PM »
Sounds about right.   Among other things, he got his 650 BSA up to 80 in second gear, too ....

Like he'd know.   At 8000 RPM on a stock BSA, Samuel Smith himself couldn't read the Magnetic speedometer on that bike, assuming a con-rod hadn't taken it off the forks first ....

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Re: You know that Vincent you couldn't afford?, CL, ny
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2018, 01:33:57 PM »
So do you.   You couldn't have survived a career as a law enforcement officer if you couldn't "read between the lines".

When you stopped someone in a car on a lonely North Carolina backroad, the only "lines" you had were "20-something tattooed white male in an old Toyota license plate ALB-113".    That was it.   

Everything else was reading BETWEEN the lines.   "He's nervous.   Keeps looking over in the passenger floorboard.   Doesn't give the same answers to the same questions.   Has a bulge in his beltline on the right hip.   Dilated pupils .... " and so on.   None of what you are seeing "between the lines" PROVES anything.    People can second-guess you and say "But how did you KNOW?"

But you've seen it before a dozen times, and it always means the same thing.   And so you act accordingly.   If you're wrong in your deduction, then it means an apology or a gig on your record, and you've learned.   If you're right, it means you live another day, and a successful arrest, and you've learned again.   

That's all I'm doing.   I've interacted with thousands of people regarding motorcycles in 48 years, and I find that I'm getting fairly good at "guessing" at the balance of probability ....

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Re: You know that Vincent you couldn't afford?, CL, ny
« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2018, 05:01:41 PM »
Sounds about right.   Among other things, he got his 650 BSA up to 80 in second gear, too ....

Like he'd know.   At 8000 RPM on a stock BSA, Samuel Smith himself couldn't read the Magnetic speedometer on that bike, assuming a con-rod hadn't taken it off the forks first ....

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but it's a helluva good story anyway ya cut it   :evil:
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Re: You know that Vincent you couldn't afford?, CL, ny
« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2018, 07:04:14 PM »
but it's a helluva good story anyway ya cut it   :evil:

If he didn't tell good stories, I wouldn't be reading him ... !   All this time on the road has made me overly picky about the details, I suppose ....

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As I was watching the dog chase his tail last night, I thought "Dogs are easily amused ..."

Then I realized I was watching the dog chase his tail.

 


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