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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2018, 06:42:26 AM »
That's a bit disconcerting Kev.
I've had about 40 bikes and half of them had cast wheels, what bracket does that leave me in ?

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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2018, 07:27:51 AM »
+1, kev.  Reminds me of Monsters, Inc.  "These are the jokes, kid!"

I recall being very much impressed by the T120 I rode when they first were introduced.  That same day I also rode a street cup.  The difference in turning woth the cast wheels vs. the spoke wheels was clearly evident.  It was enough to keep us from getting a spoke wheel Bonnie (again-we did have a 790 Bonnie with spokes).  A very similar package (Speed Twin) to the T120 with cast wheels ( I'll assume they will be more nimble than the spokes again) is attractive.
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2018, 12:46:43 PM »
Dude, will you please stop taking one liners seriously especially when followed by --->  :laugh: or  :grin: or  :wink: or  :kiss: or  :evil: or ESPECIALLY  :boozing:
Ok Kev.
We've spoken as you recall and I know you're a straight guy, but the thrust of your point and the humour contained within, isn't always readily identifiable from this side of the Pacific Ocean.
I'll redouble my efforts to take your meanings as intended, confident that you'll do the same mate, but you have turned well meaning argumentativeness into somewhat of an art form also... :wink:
I guess I just don't have that ingrained rapier American wit... :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2018, 12:49:58 PM »
What wrong  with the foot controls, Shorty? A bit too sporting for your taste? I never really noticed that until you mentioned it.
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2018, 05:41:57 PM »
I've only ever owned one bike in my life that I've ridden on both cast and spoked wheels and I couldn't tell the difference from the rider's seat.
I should have weighed the wires versus the cast, 'cos I'm buggered if I know which is lighter..
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2018, 07:27:54 PM »
If you can try the various Bonnies back to back.  It'll be obvious.
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2018, 12:38:09 AM »
If you can try the various Bonnies back to back.  It'll be obvious.
Are the cast ones lighter ?

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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2018, 04:49:28 AM »
The cast wheel/tire assembly turns noticeably quicker than the spoke steel chromed wheel/tire assembly.

Look at past issues of BIKE magazine for reports from Sir Alan Cathcart on this topic.  Or, ride them if you have the opportunity.  You won't need to be Stoner to feel the difference.  Not better, not worse.  Just.......differen t.
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2018, 08:26:50 AM »
The cast wheels are 17" diameter...the spoked wheels are 18" or 19".
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2018, 10:12:24 PM »
The cast wheels are 17" diameter...the spoked wheels are 18" or 19".
So is that what gives the different feel ?

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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2018, 10:31:48 PM »
The rotating mass of the wheels is farther from the axle with larger diameter wheel assemblies. This slows steering and demands more effort to reach a given lean angle. It's the reason scooters with 10” wheels can be a handful at speed. I found that even 16” wheels can be a bit “darty.” 17” wheels are sort’ve the sweet spot for me...
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2018, 12:49:48 AM »
The rotating mass of the wheels is farther from the axle with larger diameter wheel assemblies. This slows steering and demands more effort to reach a given lean angle. It's the reason scooters with 10” wheels can be a handful at speed. I found that even 16” wheels can be a bit “darty.” 17” wheels are sort’ve the sweet spot for me...
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2018, 09:53:15 AM »
My bad.  I figured most understood the different wheel size.
It most definitely has something to do with front end feel.
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2018, 11:57:14 AM »
Ok Kev.
We've spoken as you recall and I know you're a straight guy, but the thrust of your point and the humour contained within, isn't always readily identifiable from this side of the Pacific Ocean.
I'll redouble my efforts to take your meanings as intended, confident that you'll do the same mate, but you have turned well meaning argumentativeness into somewhat of an art form also... :wink:
I guess I just don't have that ingrained rapier American wit... :wink: :wink: :wink:

 :azn: Well, on my side of the Atlantic Ocean Kev´s humour sounds very familiar - and refreshing.
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2018, 05:12:28 PM »
:azn: Well, on my side of the Atlantic Ocean Kev´s humour sounds very familiar - and refreshing.
As it does to me Fossil in general.
I did say not ALWAYS readily identifiable. But usually if something is a joke, it doesn't need to be announced as such, the humour will be self evident, I'm just not witty enough I guess.

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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2018, 04:33:41 AM »
As it does to me Fossil in general.
I did say not ALWAYS readily identifiable. But usually if something is a joke, it doesn't need to be announced as such, the humour will be self evident, I'm just not witty enough I guess.

Cannot be. You are an Australian. Australians are born witty.
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Re: Triumph's New Speed Twin
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2018, 07:37:23 AM »
Huzo,  I live in the SOUTHERN half of the US and we think that New Jersey, where Kev resides, is a "whole other country " too😂 sometime it may be a little unsure if they are just funning but believe me there will  be no doubt when their not, LMBO:)

 


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