Feeble mind wants to know. Tool related.

[acogoff]

     Someone must know what the little palm sized tool for winding the sump screws in and out is or was called. Seems to me it was like a spring loaded palm ratchet. I can not seem to find any information on this fancy inteneck search thingie. Could be I am just hallucinating that there even is or was such a thing. Age seems to be catching up with me, maybe.

[Chuck in Indiana]

     Someone must know what the little palm sized tool for winding the sump screws in and out is or was called. Seems to me it was like a spring loaded palm ratchet. I can not seem to find any information on this fancy inteneck search thingie. Could be I am just hallucinating that there even is or was such a thing. Age seems to be catching up with me, maybe.

Oh yeah, there *was* one, but it's been NLA for years.

[oldbike54]

 Easy enough to make , a palm ratchet in 1/4 drive and the appropriate Allen wrench .

 Dusty

[Chuck in Indiana]

The one he's talking about had a recoil spring like a lawn mower starter arrangement.

[oldbike54]

The one he's talking about had a recoil spring like a lawn mower starter arrangement.

 Sounds kinda complicated for a Guzzi rider 

 Dusty

[acogoff]

    Thanks guys for letting me know there really was such a thing. My "hallucination" seemed to say you pulled the cord and it would rewind in the direction you wanted to wind the screws, after they were loose of course, and just turn it over to wind them the other way. But I suppose now-a-days with all the air ratchets and such, they have gone by the way side. Spinning the screws out by hand by twirling the allen with my fingers is becoming tougher to do with some lose of feeling and dexterity in my hands with getting older. I do own an air ratchet, but seems a bit overkill and I'd best make sure I have it going the proper direction.

[Daniel Kalal]

...the little palm sized tool...

It is called "Torq-It"

It works very well.  A couple of pulls and each sump screw is out.  And, if you use only the tool for installation, you ensure that the screws are not over-tightened into the aluminum block.

These were advertised in the MGNOC newsletter and were probably in most toolboxes of the time.  It's really well built and chances are that if you can find one, it'll be in perfect order.

[Testarossa]

Palm ratchet?  Dozens of those, including pneumatics, though I don't see anything with a recoil spring.

[Kev m]

    Thanks guys for letting me know there really was such a thing. My "hallucination" seemed to say you pulled the cord and it would rewind in the direction you wanted to wind the screws, after they were loose of course, and just turn it over to wind them the other way. But I suppose now-a-days with all the air ratchets and such, they have gone by the way side. Spinning the screws out by hand by twirling the allen with my fingers is becoming tougher to do with some lose of feeling and dexterity in my hands with getting older. I do own an air ratchet, but seems a bit overkill and I'd best make sure I have it going the proper direction.

It's gone even further....these days you probably don't even need a compressor anymore:



https://www.homedepot.com/p/PRO-SERIES-3-8-in-18-Volt-Rechargeable-Cordless-Torque-Ratchet-Wrench-TRW18/309177629?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD25T%7C25-9_PORTABLE+POWER%7CNA%7CPLA%7c71700000034127218%7c58700003933021540%7c92700043961203350&gclid=CjwKCAjwlPTmBRBoEiwAHqpvhcmfxnKjugsKHZrbP6JEV_QQWtAwJTIViuqjZyv8TA9fHKpBoD-VFxoCRf4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Though I still haven't made the leap from air to cordless electric.

[Daniel Kalal]

Palm ratchet?  Dozens of those, including pneumatics, though I don't see anything with a recoil spring.

The pull-cord is what makes the tool special.  Removing the sump bolts is awkward when you're lying on your back; this tool zips them right out with no danger of over-powering the threads.  Of course, it can also be used on the valve covers.

[larrys]

I am liking my cordless 1/4" DeWalt impact driver for sump and valve cover screws. The driver with the bit is still short enough to fit in the space under the sump with the bike on the center stand. Still tighten them by hand, though.
Larry

[oldbike54]

 Hmm , Chuckie , how much to make a batch ?  OK OK I know , $100K 

 Dusty

[Chuck in Indiana]

^^^^^
Roughly..     But once you had the tooling made, just think of the profits rolling in from world wide sales in the.. what? Oh. Never mind.. 

[oldbike54]

 ^^^Shirley a wonderful tool like that would sell in the tens , right ? 

 Dusty

[blackcat]

^^^Shirley a wonderful tool like that would sell in the tens , right ? 

 Dusty

And ten more will get sold when the price is reduced 30%.

[Chuck in Indiana]

^^^^
Yeah, that's about right. 

[John A]

If I wait until the going out of business sale, will I get a killer deal?

[cliffrod]

    Thanks guys for letting me know there really was such a thing. My "hallucination" seemed to say you pulled the cord and it would rewind in the direction you wanted to wind the screws, after they were loose of course, and just turn it over to wind them the other way. But I suppose now-a-days with all the air ratchets and such, they have gone by the way side. Spinning the screws out by hand by twirling the allen with my fingers is becoming tougher to do with some lose of feeling and dexterity in my hands with getting older. I do own an air ratchet, but seems a bit overkill and I'd best make sure I have it going the proper direction.

If the Torq-It is nla, what about an adjustable or dedicated torque driver? This link has a wide variety of them, not HF cheap but probably not HF quality.   https://www.protorquetools.com/2-8-nm-cdi-torqcontrol-adjustable-torque-wrench-tla28nm/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMItrrBooij4gIVw4CfCh0bKwPHEAQYASABEgIQ_PD_BwE

Ive got 2-3 dedicated t-handle torque drivers in the toolbox that have accrued over the years.  Remove the fasteners with a regular or power rachet, then install with the torque driver.