Author Topic: Trying to Identify 1997 1100 Sport ECU Chips  (Read 1547 times)

Offline MedicAndy

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Trying to Identify 1997 1100 Sport ECU Chips
« on: December 11, 2019, 11:13:28 PM »
I did some long overdue 1100 Sport parts inventory yesterday, and I found eight ECU chips, a Power Commander, and a floppy disk in a small unlabeled box, which came with other spare parts from a bike I bought a couple of years ago. 

So I'm now trying to find a little more out about the chips I have here. I talked to Will Creedon yesterday, and the WPC12 chip is one that he made. It is his latest version chip, so this is a great spare to have. I did buy a second chip from Will today, just in case that I will end up needing one or two sometime later.

The MG chip dated 07/02/97 is probably the original factory chip.

I really would like to find out more on the two Raceco chips. The standard Raceco ECU chip will be easy to install, so I can compare if the bike performs any difference between it and the Creedon chip. The other Raceco chip's main board is larger, so I need to take a look at one of my ECU boards to see on how it could fit.

Then I have two "Rich Bender" chips, which of whom I have never heard off. I also never heard of the other two KF CA new stock, or the 16M-M6 old stock.

I would also love to know on what is stored on the floppy disk? But that may never happen, since I haven't seen a floppy drive in over twenty years. A lot of original Sport 1100 owners must have played with the Power Commanders too, since the Canadian 1997 1100 Sport I just bought has one of them installed too. But that bike was professionally setup and dyno tuned with the PC III in place, so this bike seems to do just fine as is. So besides the Canadian bike, I now have two PC III's on my inventory shelve... :)

Please let me know if anybody knows anything about the other chips, especially the two Raceco chips.

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« Last Edit: December 11, 2019, 11:23:48 PM by MedicAndy »
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Re: Trying to Identify 1997 1100 Sport ECU Chips
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2019, 07:47:31 AM »
Fun finds, of which I know nothing about  :wink:

The floppy probably contains some mapping files for the power commander I'm guessing. There are Floppy to USB external drives if you really want to find out, but that would be my guess since you can export configurations to a file.
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Re: Trying to Identify 1997 1100 Sport ECU Chips
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2019, 09:43:31 AM »
I would love to get a copy of the files on that disk for my collection.
I still have my rom burner and a few blanks if you need something made.
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Re: Trying to Identify 1997 1100 Sport ECU Chips
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2019, 09:59:26 AM »
I recall when Will was doing these he made numerous versions trying to perfect the results. I tried a few chips in my EV including one from Joost. They helped the lean midrange but at the cost a fuel mileage big time like from 42 stock to around 33. The Power Commander along with a map that could be had on the web (source???) worked the best. Great power and fuel mileage back up to around 44-45.
If I had these I would put the stock chip back in along with Power Commander and find someone with a dyno who can dial it in.
BTW the reason you probably have all these chips is the P.O. was trying to improve the results and found most lacking in some area.

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Re: Trying to Identify 1997 1100 Sport ECU Chips
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2019, 12:31:55 PM »
Putting my digital librarianship hat on here--I'd highly recommend getting one of the Floppy to USB drives Groover suggested. Those floppies are likely 20+ years old, and they're not the world's most stable storage medium, particularly if they've seen big temperature fluctuations from being stored in a shed. At my work I've come across some of the cheaply made 3.5" floppies that have had significant data loss, which is always a shame. Even if you don't think you'll actively need the files right away, it's well worth the few bucks to make a stable backup!

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Re: Trying to Identify 1997 1100 Sport ECU Chips
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2019, 12:51:49 PM »
The Raceco chip with the extra daughter board is the Ultimap FIM chip I mentioned on the fb page.
The whole lot plugs in where the original chip comes from. My Sport came with that style and I too was wondering what the hell... but some googling showed pointed me at the Ultimaps. Seems it was very popular with Ducatis of the same era

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