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Offline Ronkom

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improved rear brake pedal
« on: July 19, 2022, 08:32:20 PM »
On my old '98 EV I had an aftermarket rear brake set up that was fitted under the floorboard w/the pedal protruding from the front of the board. It did away with the little "nub" baby footpeg & having to lift your foot to use the rear brake. Just slide your foot forward & activate the brake w/your toe. A much more secure feeling, especially when you needed the brake in an emergency. Anybody know who made them?  Have one laying around? Know where I might find one? Any help appreciated.
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2022, 06:42:41 AM »
If memory serves, I believe they called themselves Advanced Products or something similar. They made that brake pedal and perhaps a replacement "choke" lever.

They were vague on the details, but the implication was that they somehow ran afoul of DOT regulations and ended production. I bought one of the last ones.

That said, I've never had an issue with mine, nor have I ever heard of any failures.

If you don't have any luck, I have a lengthened OE pedal sent to me by the late, great Cleveland Steve. It's not as good as the Advanced pedal but definitely better than stock.
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2022, 07:20:51 AM »
I modified a brake pedal for my Cal. I cut off the boss for the nub and welded in a 3" section to lengthen the pedal. It's more comfortable to me, don't have to pick up my foot to use the brake, YMMV. Have to finish the metal work and get it off to the chrome shop.
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2022, 07:40:29 AM »
I was working underneath of a friends EV. Maybe an oil change, I've forgotten. As I got up off the ground, I sort of grabbed the brake lever to lift myself up. It was one of those under the floorboard things, and it bent over like a wet noodle.

Pretty poor contraption to have for a brake lever.

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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2022, 08:57:59 AM »
I rode over 100000 miles with the stock set up and I have a sore right hip.I can’t prove the cause but it is my prime suspect.I would fix it if I ever got another floorboard bike.

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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2022, 09:15:31 AM »
Let me know if you find any.
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2022, 09:25:17 AM »
I bought my first Guzzi, an '04 EV1100, without riding it first. Got it home, off the trailer, and was shocked at the incredibly uncomfortable rear brake pedal. The next day I saw one of these aftermarket brake pedals listed on Craigslist, not more than 20 minutes from my home, for $100. Incredible karma. Best modification I have ever made to a motorcycle.
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2022, 10:05:26 AM »
 I have had my 98 EV for a couple of years and have gotten used to the brake except when riding slow doing turns and trying to finesse it. I had a a T3 FB which I removed the floor boards and put on Standard  pegs but kept the giant side stand, nice set up.
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2022, 12:35:41 PM »
I bought my first Guzzi, an '04 EV1100, without riding it first. Got it home, off the trailer, and was shocked at the incredibly uncomfortable rear brake pedal. The next day I saw one of these aftermarket brake pedals listed on Craigslist, not more than 20 minutes from my home, for $100. Incredible karma. Best modification I have ever made to a motorcycle.
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Wish I had the tools and knowledge to make one of those.
Any Guzzistas able to fabricate one?
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2022, 06:03:11 AM »
I had one on my Convert and it was amazing. I'm surprised someone hasn't started making these again in small numbers.

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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2022, 03:54:18 PM »
Anybody have one on a "project" or other inactive bike they'd be willing to loan out for use as a pattern? I could take pictures/measurements, show it to a couple local machinists/fabricators & send it back in a week/10 days.
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2022, 02:24:15 PM »
 I had a 95 Cali 1100 I and with my size 14 boots I always found the brake and shifter awkward for my use. Then in 2001 I bought a new EV and i knew early on I was gonna do something about it. One day after looking at it I decided to just make my own. I used a torch, a lincoln buzz box welder, and a grinder to come up with what I've been using for over 100,000 miles.
 I used 5/8 solid rod for the lever, an iron pipe sleeve for the pivot. I honed out the pipe to a size that I could press in a bronze bushing from the local hardware store. I then honed the bushing to fit the stub on the lower frame rail. I also put a grease fitting in it. I heated and bent the rod to fit under the foot-board and to clear the exhaust header. For the pedal pad i cut a piece of flat stock and arched it slightly and snapped on a Dodge Ram e-brake pad I had laying around. I figured out the geometry of the original and made the upper arm in a length that the braking feel would be the same. I also welded on a small arm than is attached to a return spring underneath. Nothing on the bike itself was modified and could be put back to stock in a matter of minutes. The whole project took me about 3-4 hours and I have been completely happy with it over the past 20 years.
 When it was done I posted pics on here (I had a different user name then) and had numerous inquiries if I'd be interested in making them. I didn't feel it would be worth the liability involved to produce motorcycle brake pedals for people I didn't know so I declined. A few months after I posted my pics low and behold the "Advanced Brake Pedal" hit the market using a copy of my design but not nearly as robust. It wasn't that hard of a job and if anyone needs advice on making one send me a PM. I'm gonna be removing my foot-boards soon to get them and the brake pedal powder coated. I can get better pictures of it then












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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2022, 04:38:39 PM »
Let us know if you have a change of heart visa vie making some.
I am not talented enough to pull this off myself.
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2022, 04:56:39 PM »
I had a 95 Cali 1100 I and with my size 14 boots I always found the brake and shifter awkward for my use. Then in 2001 I bought a new EV and i knew early on I was gonna do something about it. One day after looking at it I decided to just make my own. I used a torch, a lincoln buzz box welder, and a grinder to come up with what I've been using for over 100,000 miles.
 I used 5/8 solid rod for the lever, an iron pipe sleeve for the pivot. I honed out the pipe to a size that I could press in a bronze bushing from the local hardware store. I then honed the bushing to fit the stub on the lower frame rail. I also put a grease fitting in it. I heated and bent the rod to fit under the foot-board and to clear the exhaust header. For the pedal pad i cut a piece of flat stock and arched it slightly and snapped on a Dodge Ram e-brake pad I had laying around. I figured out the geometry of the original and made the upper arm in a length that the braking feel would be the same. I also welded on a small arm than is attached to a return spring underneath. Nothing on the bike itself was modified and could be put back to stock in a matter of minutes. The whole project took me about 3-4 hours and I have been completely happy with it over the past 20 years.
 When it was done I posted pics on here (I had a different user name then) and had numerous inquiries if I'd be interested in making them. I didn't feel it would be worth the liability involved to produce motorcycle brake pedals for people I didn't know so I declined. A few months after I posted my pics low and behold the "Advanced Brake Pedal" hit the market using a copy of my design but not nearly as robust. It wasn't that hard of a job and if anyone needs advice on making one send me a PM. I'm gonna be removing my foot-boards soon to get them and the brake pedal powder coated. I can get better pictures of it then











Good job. That does look more robust than the "Advanced" copy.
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Re: improved rear brake pedal
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2022, 05:23:17 PM »
I rode over 100000 miles with the stock set up and I have a sore right hip.I can’t prove the cause but it is my prime suspect.I would fix it if I ever got another floorboard bike.

I used a Stone/ Jackal pedal on my 94 Cali. Some adjustment/ additional threading of the linkage rod was needed.
No more nub to rest the right foot on and unergonomic position. Works well for my size 8 foot but may need modification  for the guys with bigger feet


 
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