All V9s the same?

[dxhall]

Other than the seat / wheel differences between Roamer and Bobber, are all of the V9s the same mechanically regardless of year?

[MotoG5]

Mostly yes and some times no. The engine manual is the same for both. The service manual (shop manual) covers both bikes with dual listings for the parts that are different. For all of that the bikes are very much the same. But, if you are looking at the bikes in total you need to be sure what ever you are looking to do in the way of ordering aftermarket parts you note witch bike you are ordering for. The newer Bobber Sport has some differences but is still mostly the same as the earlier versions. As already mentioned be specific to which model you are working on when ordering stuff.

[bad Chad]

Mechanically regarding the motor and drivetrain, yes.

[Kev m]

AFAIK the early North American V9 models came with foot controls that were mounted a couple of inches more forward than the same models sold in the EU and presumably other world markets. There was enough push back that I believe dealers/owners of those early models were provided (at request) with kits to relocate those pegs to the EU position.

Now here's where I can't fill in the blank 100% yet but maybe new owners like Chad or Kb can help settle it.

Photos still on the Guzzi website for 2020 make it looks like the controls on the Roamer and standard Bobber are still more forward than the controls on the V9 Bobber Sport (BS). But some of the photos I've seen of member's bikes make me think perhaps those Roamer and standard Bobber photos are just old (meaning they haven't been updated on the website since that first run).

You see when the demo "fleet" came around last summer I rode the BS a couple of times (at two different events) and compared the peg position to that of the V7III Stone that was in the fleet. At that time I thought they were virtually identical*. That the foot peg falls basically below the front edge of the side cover and that the toe peg falls just under the very rear of the cylinder jug/head.

Can anyone confirm for me that other than for the first run of 2017 Roamers/Bobbers with the "Americanized" controls that all V9 controls are in the same position as I described above - so basically the same as the V7III?!?

*Virtually Identical - meaning about the same maybe give or take an inch. It's really hard to tell even though I took some pains to try and make sue the photos were directly from the side. But the slightest difference in angle would make them look different. I didn't think to bring a tape measure and try to make it more precise.

BS:



V7III Stone:

[bad Chad]

My understanding is that all the Roamer and Bobbers came over in 16 with forward pegs.   They didn’t sell like Guzzi expected and one reason was many didn’t like the forward mounts.  Guzzi then sent over a load of rear set conversion kits to dealers.   When I bought the Roamer last year Enzo asked which peg set up I wanted.  All Roamer and Bobber here in US are model year 17, I believe.   Bobber Sports are 18 and 20 and only come with the more rear set mid mounts.   At least that’s how I think it stands.

[jacksonracingcomau]

Was recent thread re Boamer map not working in Robber (or vice versa)
Beetle cracked the difference, search his posts —had brick ecu warning
Why different beyond my guess but is probably on here somewhere too

[Chuck in Indiana]

The top picture certainly looks like the controls are more forward to me..

[Kev m]

The top picture certainly looks like the controls are more forward to me..

As I said in my past it's virtually the same, maybe an inch difference not an Italian foot.

But that's not my question. I was trying to confirm that other than the first run of Bobbers/Roamers (which were a number of inches more forward than that), I wanted to know if the rest are "the same" as the BS pictured

A decent side photo of one from an owner would likely settle it.

Edit- Chad seems to be saying this is true.

[bad Chad]

Right, as far as I can figure there was only one run of v9 Roamers brought over.  I think they got here around mid 16 and were considered model year 17.   It has taken this long to sell them all, but most if not all have been purchased.   I realize they have a somewhat polarizing look, but as good as they are I scratch my head as to why they weren’t more popular.

[MotoG5]

Right, as far as I can figure there was only one run of v9 Roamers brought over.  I think they got here around mid 16 and were considered model year 17.   It has taken this long to sell them all, but most if not all have been purchased.   I realize they have a somewhat polarizing look, but as good as they are I scratch my head as to why they weren’t more popular.

For once I think that Piaggio/Guzzi were a bit ahead of the curve with a mid sized line of bikes in the 850cc range. Right now bikes in this class are being made and are selling well for several manufacturers. The manufactures of big displacement road bikes are having some issues with sales. As more of the Guzzi buyers sice 2016 have reached the point that the bigger machines are becoming just a bit too much to live with have taken a second look at the V7 and V9 and have realized that they may be the answer to their needs. I know as I am one of them. Traded my Stelvio NTX for a V9 Bobber at a great price and have been smiling ever since.