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Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« on: January 29, 2021, 01:12:54 PM »
Where else?!?...but on BaT...and with a *** RESERVE *** - Let's see what this beauty goes for... :thumb: :cool: :wink:




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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2021, 12:13:58 PM »
At that price it's almost worth buying it and shipping it back to its home, provided it's in decent nick. I sold my MSS for more about ten years ago. In the UK that'd sell for £9k+.

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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2021, 03:21:07 PM »
That has to be the best name to ever be placed on a motor vehicle.

The bikes not too shabby either.
2007 Griso 1100
1998 Centauro GT
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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2021, 03:33:38 PM »
My  friend, known as  Petrus Rocks on this site has a  61   Velo  scrambler he picked up at the same estate sale whereI got the 500  Pantah. He paid 500 bucks for mostly complete crusty bike.
  I have helped him a bit working on it. Typical of Brit bikes, a mixure of good and why did they do that engineering. It appears to be built to a better standard than  Triumph and BSA...
« Last Edit: January 30, 2021, 03:34:46 PM by Rough Edge racing »

Offline Tom

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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2021, 03:38:08 PM »
$5K and climbing.......to ???
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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2021, 04:00:30 PM »
I saw a rustbucket seized motor go for $5700 US on ebay then another more complete one go for $4800 non running complete on Fleabay.
I rebuilt the motor, clutch, forks, and various items on my 61 500 Velo.  I have started it but need a better gas tank so still searching...





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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2021, 04:00:55 PM »
I predict it will top 10k
I always liked Velocetts they were the fastest singles of their time.
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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2021, 04:04:02 PM »
I have seen a lot of Velos for sale in the UK, very few in the US.  I typically see prices in the $10-14K US in the UK.

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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2021, 04:16:01 PM »
I predict it will top 10k
I always liked Velocetts they were the fastest singles of their time.

If you dont count anything Italian.

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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2021, 05:07:01 PM »
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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2021, 09:16:59 AM »
Velocette was the first production motorcycle to go over 100mph for 24hours.  They pioneered air shocks and swingarm suspension as well.

Offline lucky phil

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Re: Nice '59 Velo Venom...
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2021, 05:07:44 PM »
Velocette was the first production motorcycle to go over 100mph for 24hours.  They pioneered air shocks and swingarm suspension as well.

The problem with what us English speakers know and have read about these matters is that it's all very Anglicized due to the English speaking presses writing of history. A bit like the discovery/invention of penicillin, the English wrote the history on that for 60 odd years for national pride reasons before the real hero/s were publicized and recognised. 
The velo record at Montlhéry was on a bike that was far from a production bike and took 5 months to build in the Velocette works. Still an impressive achievement but not exactly what most people would have as a vision of a production bike. Same as there IOM win in the production TT, a bike a million miles away from what we think of as a production bike these days, with a Manx Norton derived piston and many other internal bespoke mods.
As for the rear swing are, well once again its a little grey here and the influence of the British Motorcycling press at work. Guzzi had a swinging arm rear fork suspension 2 years before Velocette in 1934 with the spring unit under the engine and friction dampers at the back. I guess the Velocette design was what we know as the more recognisable traditional rear arm and damper but it's a stretch to say they invented the swingarm rear suspension.
I found out about the English motorcycle press back in the mid 80's working at the IOM as a mechanic and had the opportunity to speak to the people directly involved in Hailwoods return to the IOM in 78. Suffice to say that what the English press had to say about the detail was a little different to what actually occurred.

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