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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #120 on: December 16, 2020, 03:43:44 PM »
Save the sticker for the next owner when you're ready to sell it.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #121 on: December 16, 2020, 05:27:24 PM »
I agree. That frankly looks like the sort of sticker I'd usually take the hair dryer to...

Tough crowd.   :grin:

It is a bit underwhelming but a nice cast piece of some sort might be a bit garish. 
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #122 on: December 17, 2020, 07:50:45 AM »
Why de-tune it to 65hp? isn't the V85 listed 80hp on paper? saving the 80hp version for the V7 racer?

Let's hope so!  I would love to own a racer in Italian national colors, but with 80hp, it better come with upside down forks, dual disks, and the Ohlins rear suspension. 
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #123 on: December 17, 2020, 07:58:23 AM »
Let's hope so!  I would love to own a racer in Italian national colors, but with 80hp, it better come with upside down forks, dual disks, and the Ohlins rear suspension.


I have thought from the start that if any ONE model in the V7 line could make more power and have both better brakes/suspension it should be the "Racer" or at this point a new LeMans.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #124 on: December 17, 2020, 08:29:44 AM »
Good move on MG's part. Hope they sell all they can build.

...but jeez I wish they would offer the shiny paint/dual clock version with cast wheels. Or the cast wheel version with dual clocks and shiny paint. Either way would be fine with me.

And yes, I know there are solutions. My solution is Guzzi should just offer it  :smiley:

I agree.  Same for the exhaust.   The flat-black exhaust is just drab.

They should offer the ability to order a bike how you want it; an option sheet as you will.

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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #125 on: December 17, 2020, 08:31:46 AM »

I have thought from the start that if any ONE model in the V7 line could make more power and have both better brakes/suspension it should be the "Racer" or at this point a new LeMans.

This would certainly help differentiate the Racer/LeMans model, and make it more worthy of either name.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #126 on: December 17, 2020, 09:26:01 AM »
Good move on MG's part. Hope they sell all they can build.

...but jeez I wish they would offer the shiny paint/dual clock version with cast wheels. Or the cast wheel version with dual clocks and shiny paint. Either way would be fine with me.

And yes, I know there are solutions. My solution is Guzzi should just offer it  :smiley:

Yes, they offer upteen versions of the V7, why not?
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #127 on: December 17, 2020, 09:26:53 AM »
I agree.  Same for the exhaust.   The flat-black exhaust is just drab.

They should offer the ability to order a bike how you want it; an option sheet as you will.

Single or Dual Gauges
Paint -- select from any of the paint schemes available on the stone or special.
Color Matched side covers and fenders, vs. black as on the stone (including matching the Stone tank colors if desired).
Wheels -- cast or wire

That would be cool, but I think that would add considerable cost to manufacturing.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #128 on: December 17, 2020, 12:05:36 PM »
That would be cool, but I think that would add considerable cost to manufacturing.

That is why I made it a point to use the paint colors they already have, wheels, gauges, etc they already have.
 There is no reason it needs to cost more.  Plug the orders in the ERP system, generate build sheets for the shop floor, and they just pick the correct parts (from what they already have) to build it.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #129 on: December 17, 2020, 02:05:32 PM »
Some how for Italian industry, I don’t think it works like you think it should.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #130 on: December 17, 2020, 02:09:38 PM »
I agree with Chad.  I think the factory loses it after the siesta break. If the company cafeteria is like Ducati's.....bottles of wine are opened for the executive lunchroom and the worker's cafeteria has wine & birra on the line.  If they have a bar, shots of grappa before heading back to the assembly line.   :shocked:

The old factory in Mandello had Hardy's across the street for their shots of grappa before heading back to assembly line.   :shocked:
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #131 on: December 17, 2020, 06:32:51 PM »
That would be cool, but I think that would add considerable cost to manufacturing.

They wouldn't have to discount pricing to sell if everyone pre-orders. 
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #132 on: December 18, 2020, 05:22:55 AM »
I still like the look of the V9 Bobber Sport more than the new V7. Maybe the Sport will get the more powerful engine next year (probably not).

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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #133 on: December 18, 2020, 10:34:54 AM »
according to robb  report  the stone price $8990.00    the special price $9490.00 they show blue,  and a grigio casual which is grey have not seen

this color yet. I have av85tt I'm selling or trading just too tall and  heavy for me, besides I have a lowered dr650 for my off roading needs

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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850
« Reply #134 on: December 18, 2020, 03:13:29 PM »
Of course it's confusing, its Moto Guzzi.  I will believe it when I see them on the showroom floor.
That’s what the popular wisdom was regarding the V85.
Jeez, those all black things look like hand made crap...

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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2021, 03:55:30 PM »
I have to say I'm quite disappointed. Is that the best they can do with the new 850cc motor.
They're both missed opportunities, who wants a Bonneville look alike or another V7 - single disk,  standard forks,  and twin shocks for crying out loud.
Why not something like these




Or





It's 2021 for goodness sake, get with the program Moto Guzzi.

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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2021, 04:12:23 PM »
I hope all you guys who are so disappointed, will be ready with your wallets when the new sport (ish) Guzzi hits the floor.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2021, 04:15:41 PM »
I hope all you guys who are so disappointed, will be ready with your wallets when the new sport (ish) Guzzi hits the floor.

Agreed. I’m happy they kept the V7 looking as it does. Can’t beat a classic look. And judging from the teaser image, I think we’re smelling a sporty “modern” something on the horizon.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2021, 05:24:13 PM »
I'm going to at least test ride the 850 Stone - which I like the look of. Could finally be a good replacement for my 2004 Breva.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2021, 05:30:13 PM »
I hope all you guys who are so disappointed, will be ready with your wallets when the new sport (ish) Guzzi hits the floor.

I'd be first in line for the V85 Lemans 100th Anniversary.
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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2021, 07:46:25 PM »
I hope all you guys who are so disappointed, will be ready with your wallets when the new sport (ish) Guzzi hits the floor.

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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2021, 08:43:04 PM »
I hope all you guys who are so disappointed, will be ready with your wallets when the new sport (ish) Guzzi hits the floor.

Of course I would, why do you think I'm disappointed. 
I'm looking for a new bike, have had 4 Guzzis over the last 15 years,  currently riding a 1200 Sport - the flash red and white one.  But at 70 I'm finding it a little/lot too heavy to push around, on the road I'm fine, but I'm not as strong as I once was.
Hence I'm looking for a new bike and nothing Guzzi is offering fits the bill. And no,  I don't want a V7 with it's old style looks AND equipment, and the new V7 850 is no better which is a real shame because I'm a Guzzi man.
So as much as it pains me,  I'm looking at one of these





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Re: New 2021 guzzi V7 850 merged threadfest
« Reply #143 on: March 17, 2021, 08:59:59 PM »
Of course I would, why do you think I'm disappointed. 
I'm looking for a new bike, have had 4 Guzzis over the last 15 years,  currently riding a 1200 Sport - the flash red and white one.  But at 70 I'm finding it a little/lot too heavy to push around, on the road I'm fine, but I'm not as strong as I once was.
Hence I'm looking for a new bike and nothing Guzzi is offering fits the bill. And no,  I don't want a V7 with it's old style looks AND equipment, and the new V7 850 is no better which is a real shame because I'm a Guzzi man.
So as much as it pains me,  I'm looking at one of these




Yep. I have a Stornello and love it, but lacks in the performance area on all levels. Same with all the other V7's. Delightful and full of fun, but if something is going to replace my 13 year old 1200Sport or 14 year old Griso, it has to be MORE..... A V9 or V7 isn't going to cut it, and I really do NOT like the ADV look of the V85.  I can't believe they haven't released a sportish street version of the full V85 motor. The new V7/9 is NOT the same motor. Has a different crank, and TB/ECU, maybe even different heads. I highly doubt the full V85 motor is peaked.

Piaggio has a huge parts bin and bits, and a V85 Lemans would be an easy reach IMNSHO.... With how popular the V85 has been, you would think they would. Don't misunderstand, I think the progression and evolution of the V7/9 is a GOOD thing, and hope they sell like crazy, but they are mostly entry level bikes. The V85 is a great bike, but is a particular niche. The 1400 series bikes are dead, but even so are so over built/bloats and heavy. Guzzi needs a middle weight line based off the V85 that could be a sport standard (NOT classic) and even a V85 based Sport Touring bike.  With the right ergo's they will also be a huge hit. 

Guzzi needs a new Marque flagship bike, and an ADV or V7/9 can't be it.........
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