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Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« on: July 05, 2021, 03:07:43 PM »
I'm thinking about something different. That means something else has depart the island of misfit toys. 

Shortlist is the 907 paso, 69 ambo, and the Quota 1100.

How do you make the call, or should I put up all three and see what happens?
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2021, 03:15:19 PM »
I’d probably ask myself “which one will tear my heart out the least” as it’s going out the driveway?🤔😩👍

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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2021, 03:34:07 PM »
My two cents-

When I thinned the herd substantially in 06-07, it was hard to imagine that selling those bikes would mean they would realistically be out of reach for me in the future.  Even though I could afford to buy one, my valuation of owning one of them would not justify against the new and ever-appreciating values placed upon them by others.  The buffet of cheap cool bikes that was ending about the same time is now long dead and gone.

Put a price on them that will satisfy you.  That's what I did.  My V7 Sport didn't sell, apparently because I valued it more than the buying public.  The rest of them sold.  Thankfully I still have my V7 Sport.

It's also good to think about the potential to keep any old machine on the road as parts dry up.  If there's no repro or significant market present, pending or likely, it's good to sell before others think that far ahead about owning one.
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2021, 03:45:30 PM »
I am in the same place with retirement looming ahead.  All 3 of your bikes are unique , interesting models and as a result , hard ( at least in my view ) to part with. I have managed to thin the heard over the last 20 years using the criteria that , in  order  to have new, different bikes/cars  or scare up funds for a project , somethings gots to go. Hopefully you can decide what you are least uncomfortable without, or as I have done in the past, list several vehicles that could be sold and let fate take its course.
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2021, 04:21:20 PM »
Remember two things:

1. Prices on BaT have never been better or higher for vintage bikes...like the Ducati or '69 Ambo...

2. With $CASH$ in hand, you can get whatever you want and have another adventure...


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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2021, 04:23:47 PM »
Buy what you like. If budget allows buy them all then decide what stays and goes.

Herd thinning can be very hard but to make it easy several years ago I put a restriction on myself that if a bike doesn't get ridden at least 1000 miles in 365 days it gets sold. More than one bike "I'd never sell" is a distant memory. I figure I can always buy them again it the urge struck.

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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2021, 04:27:05 PM »
QUOTEMore than one bike "I'd never sell" is a distant memory. I figure I can always buy them again it the urge struck.

AMEN! 

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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2021, 04:30:20 PM »
I would sell the motorcycles that are easy to replace, especially if you decided to re-visit that ownership at a later date. The Ambo and Quota are not too hard to find and I don't see that changing in the future.
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2021, 05:01:45 PM »
If you had your fun with them and other you find new projects interesting then its time to let something go, if it were my choice I would part with the Quota first.

I am planning on selling some more of my bikes this year, if the USA / CDN border opens soon I will probably go with BAT. In the past couple years I have sold two V7 Sports, a 1000S, a Lemans MKI and a
750 S3, all were fun to work on and ride but finances and space meant that they had to go to make room for other projects.

Sorry for hijacking your thread Turin, seems we may be in the same position

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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2021, 06:15:07 PM »
I don't mind the Hijack since you supplied all those pretty pictures!
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2021, 07:23:11 PM »
Once you decide to sell a bike.  DON'T ride it while you have it up for sale.  You'll become your worse enemy.  😂
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2021, 07:41:45 PM »
I think you have to factor in whatever you are intending to purchase. For example, if you are buying a Stelvio, you might let the Quota go. If another vintage sport bike, maybe let the Ducati go.

What are you planning to buy? Is it similar to any of the the other bikes in the stable?

And personally, I would take all three of them out for a ride. See how you feel about them and then choose one to advertise. And once it's for sale, I'd ride it everywhere to get it noticed. I know that is opposite to someone else's advice. But when I sell a bike, I like to be able to say that I've been riding it regularly with no problems.
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2021, 07:53:40 PM »
One thing to consider is how much longer you can maintain your bikes. Think of what might happen in the event of a simple driveway tip-over. Many parts specific to the Paso already are scarce, as are for the Quota but probably less so. The Ambassador can be kept up fairly easily, however.

I loved my Paso 750 but was relieved when it finally went away. It was already sucking up too much of my resources to maintain the way I wanted it kept up.

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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2021, 08:04:53 PM »
Once you decide to sell a bike.  DON'T ride it while you have it up for sale.  You'll become your worse enemy.  😂


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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2021, 08:13:13 PM »
Once you decide to sell a bike.  DON'T ride it while you have it up for sale.  You'll become your worse enemy.  😂

I have been riding my Ducati and Morini all spring hoping to get in as many miles on them as I can in the event one of them sells! I think I have put on at least 500 miles a week on the pair fine tuning the jetting  and just enjoying them for what they are. It’s much more engaging riding these old nails compared to last weeks ride on my BMW K1600 that is pretty close to driving a sports car with the comfort 4 wheels offer.
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2021, 06:01:52 AM »
What is this “sell” you speak of?   :popcorn:
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2021, 07:28:09 AM »
  I've wondered about trading, even up or near even. Then neither party feels quite so bad?
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2021, 08:00:45 AM »
In the early 1980's, I had a 1975 version of this same bike.  Same color and everything.  Beautiful! 
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2021, 05:56:54 PM »
In the early 1980's, I had a 1975 version of this same bike.  Same color and everything.  Beautiful! 
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I get mine back this weekend, its been with Wolfgang since last fall for some fine tuning, realy looking forward to riding it again, I have hardly any miles on it since the restoration. I was stumped on the igntion / carb settings and Wolfgang has got it sorted.
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2021, 06:24:35 PM »
 I'm also cutting back, I sold just sold my Centauro, i love riding it but my Buell Uly pretty much covers what the Centauro does and more and I should be able to keep it going longer. Maybe. I also may be selling my 77 LeMans which was my dream bike. I'm just not sure what it is worth since it has been repainted and has a couple broken cylinder fins and a few non stock items.
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2021, 07:22:26 PM »
I'm also cutting back, I sold just sold my Centauro, i love riding it but my Buell Uly pretty much covers what the Centauro does and more and I should be able to keep it going longer. Maybe. I also may be selling my 77 LeMans which was my dream bike. I'm just not sure what it is worth since it has been repainted and has a couple broken cylinder fins and a few non stock items.

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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2021, 09:51:16 PM »
Turin

Don't sell the 907.  It's too hard to find nice ones anymore, and they just ooze cool...

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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2021, 05:32:48 AM »


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Where is the market on these Canuck? What would you expect on this bike? Seems like the sky would be the limit on BAT
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2021, 10:44:01 AM »
Thought you were talking about world population for a minute there.

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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2021, 11:07:55 AM »
Thought you were talking about world population for a minute there.

Where is Jessica Hyde?
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2021, 11:15:26 AM »
Wars are always effective. The pandemic is doing a reasonable job.

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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2021, 05:54:42 PM »
I’d probably ask myself “which one will tear my heart out the least” as it’s going out the driveway?🤔😩👍

yeah, i am going through this right now too. i am thinking of selling the 1100sporti but i am really going to miss that bike. the sound of that exhaust note inhabits my dreams.
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2021, 07:50:34 PM »
Where is the market on these Canuck? What would you expect on this bike? Seems like the sky would be the limit on BAT

A 74 sold last month in British Columbia for $12,500, nice bike original, not restored but well maintained. That’s about $10,000 US, I have this bike appraised at $17500 CDN of $14,000 USD. I think the real market value is probably between $12000 to $14000 USD. Laverdas just don’t seem to get a lot of attention here in North America, the Brits, Germans and Aussies go for them in a big way.
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Re: Thoughts on thinning the herd ?
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2021, 10:07:39 PM »
Kip !

Whatsup Buddy !

The 907 came out the year I graduated high school.  Always lusted after one. It's leaning towards the Ambassador as I am not as connected to it when riding. 

 



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