Straigt pipes

[blackcat]

Times have changed, in the old days copper plumbing pipes were the proffered material for the grizzled suspender snapping Guzzi owner.

[faux_Guzzi]

I settled on the leo vince slip on lv-10. After talking with my parts guy at my local shop he suggested them as an alternative to the mistral and agostani. They were at least 300 cheaper then then the others and will clean up the back of the bike a bit. And john you are absolutely right and i value everyones opinion on this forum and am glad this is a space to bounce ideas off. They have used these slip ons on several guzzis at the shop and have not had any complaints. for sure my other choice would of been mivv but I will let you know how it goes thank you for the advice. i knew going into this conversation it was going to be a brute but thanks again guys all of you. now to get out the laptop and start learning about this mapping.

[Ncdan]

I settled on the leo vince slip on lv-10. After talking with my parts guy at my local shop he suggested them as an alternative to the mistral and agostani. They were at least 300 cheaper then then the others and will clean up the back of the bike a bit. And john you are absolutely right and i value everyones opinion on this forum and am glad this is a space to bounce ideas off. They have used these slip ons on several guzzis at the shop and have not had any complaints. for sure my other choice would of been mivv but I will let you know how it goes thank you for the advice. i knew going into this conversation it was going to be a brute but thanks again guys all of you. now to get out the laptop and start learning about this mapping.

Spoken like a gentleman, Sir and send some pictures, with sound preferably 👍

Dan

[Kev m]

I settled on the leo vince slip on lv-10. After talking with my parts guy at my local shop he suggested them as an alternative to the mistral and agostani. They were at least 300 cheaper then then the others and will clean up the back of the bike a bit. And john you are absolutely right and i value everyones opinion on this forum and am glad this is a space to bounce ideas off. They have used these slip ons on several guzzis at the shop and have not had any complaints. for sure my other choice would of been mivv but I will let you know how it goes thank you for the advice. i knew going into this conversation it was going to be a brute but thanks again guys all of you. now to get out the laptop and start learning about this mapping.

  

[Vagrant]

I had a Vince on my 2008 Tiger 1050. Great sound and build quality.

[SIR REAL ED]

Times have changed, in the old days copper plumbing pipes were the proffered material for the grizzled suspender snapping Guzzi owner.

I stand corrected!  Large diameter copper pipes is also acceptable.  The exhaust temper will discolor the copper pipe to a beautiful rainbow of multiples hues!

Style and sound are both very important!  Prioritize one over the other as you see fit, cause, after all, it is YOUR bike!

[SIR REAL ED]

If one is on a tight budget, PVC could also be used to extend the length of one's straight pipes.  But not within 6 feet of the cylinder.  Only metal should be used in the first six feet of the exhaust system.

[Turin]

Remember to buy the ABS PVC. The white crap gets dirty and looks cheap.

[John A]

Tex will you tell us about the time you took off the mufflers and rode around in the Harley camp at zero dark thirty in the morning when they were trying to sleep ? Hilarious!

Tex may not even remember it for it was one among similar things that he did . Tex went to many rallies that most riders only think about. Anyway, he was thinking some Harley riders, you know the type, were making a spectacle of themselves with unmuffled engines and generally being rude late into the night. Tex is not one to complain but he gets up very early so he took the mufflers off his Guzzi and proceeded to rattle the empty beer cans laying around the camp as he rode around while they slept ,or tried to sleep wondering what the he*l kind of bike was that . I can’t do the story justice, maybe the master himself will!

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I wouldnt straight pipe off the headers, but that is an aesthetic choice for me. I have had and would run again- fully open/hollow 'mufflers', megaphones, or reverse cone pipes without hesitation.

[SIR REAL ED]

this goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway.

The color scheme for copper straight pipes is the same as for copper sealing washers.  The copper color has to fit in with the paint scheme and the rest of the bike or it just won't look right!

[Jack Straw]

I have a Leo Vince set on my V7III and have been very pleased.  Louder than stock but not annoying.  They really do clean up the looks nicely and with my basic GTM re-map there are no downsides at all.

They were considerably less expensive than Mistral or Ago which was a bonus.

[John A]

this goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway.

The color scheme for copper straight pipes is the same as for copper sealing washers.  The copper color has to fit in with the paint scheme and the rest of the bike or it just won't look right!

I use nickel based antisneeze compound instead of copper based antisneeze for that very reason.

[Lee Bruns]

So i have a 2021 v7 and am wanting to put straight pipes on it. I know this requires a ECU re-flash and that requires a map as well as a program and chord to hook to the bike. I am looking for the links to these items. Link for the program to run the map would be nice. Link for the chord i will need and maybe just some information on the process. Pros , cons etc. The sound of the guzzi with the straight pipes or just shorty pipes with minimal muffler is what i am looking for. I do know there are down sides to this but the fact that the only aftermarket pipes that you can get for this bike are in the $1000 range it would be nice to maybe learn to a new skill and figure out what im doing in regards of mapping a bike. Seems like i am now willing to trade my time to save some money to get desired effect.

Less power and more attention. Personally, I ride way too fast to risk the additional law enforcement attention. AND I like power. Normally I'd say 'you do you' but this sort of modification forces YOUR choices onto others. That is not acceptable. If others do not appreciate you forcing YOUR choices on them, and express it as such, you can accept their displesure as you expect them to accept your noise.

[SIR REAL ED]

I use nickel based antisneeze compound instead of copper based antisneeze for that very reason.

Yeah, sometimes it is a pain, but having an eye for the smaller details, and going the extra mile, always pays off when the job is done!   

Of course, the nickel based stuff is also an excellent sun blocker......

[faux_Guzzi]

They sound great I’ll try to get some noise soon for you

[Kiwi_Roy]

  When you get your pipes on wrap 'em up with some of this stuff. That'll get 'em goin' 

+1 it's your bike do whatever you like to it

[Kiwi_Roy]

I had a Convert with straight pipes and fish tails. I was the only one still standing at a generic motorcycle rally so I was sent to get the beer. The campground was out in the country and I left with the pipes talking.
when I returned with the two cases of beer on the luggage rack a Harley rider said I thought you was going to tear that old thing apart as I never heard you shift. I never said a word.

Tex

That's funny right there, I'm sure it will make all Convert owners chuckle

[Kiwi_Roy]

[Texas Turnip]

John A,
I rode the unmuffled Guzzi at 5 AM thru the rowdies camp and watched them crawl out of their furniture pads (furniture are free) pads to see what the racket was. One said, "it's a *^&% Moto Guzzi. Another time I pulled a muffler off and was putting it in my tent when a biker said what you doing. I told him I take off the muffler so I can hear if anyone is stealing my bike during the night. Somehow I survived all the wild biker campouts.

Don't even mention long distance rides and the mileage on your Guzzi at these events.

At home all my bikes were quiet as I left for work at odd hours. I was getting a title xferred at the tag office when my neighbor that worked there said getting another Guzzi, huh? Her co-worker went ballistic about how she'd hate to live in a neighborhood with a biker. My neighbor jumped on her and said I never hear him except laughter when he is giving kids rides in his sidecars.

Tex

[MMRanch]

faux

I put a pair of the eBay 12" shorties in my V-7II for a year or so .   I used the long DB-Killers to keep the noise level down (a little) out of respect for my neighbors .   
There wasn't no need to re-map , it ran the same way as the factory pipes.

After a while I got to missing the mellow tone of the factory pipes and put them back on.   As the Original mufflers aged they naturally got louder ... that where I'm at now at 30,000 miles.

With the "Shorties" on I would be really "EASY" on the throttle around town so I never had the Legal Problems that can come with being irritating in public.     Life can be full enough of head-ache's as it is , without going out of my way to find more .     
Good luck with your project . 

[John A]

Deb and I were on our way to the Italy TX rally. It was an easy two hundred miles from home near Shreveport and we liked to travel on backroads. She was on an Ambassador and I was on a Cal2. We stopped for a break and as we walked around a bit both of us happened to look at the back of her bike and said oh dear at the same time. I was looking at the mufflers where one baffle was hanging halfway out and the other one was gone. She was looking at the expired plates.

[Vecchio Lupo]

I don't know about the newer engines, but for Loop frame and carved Toni framed bikes, I always likes the way Dunstall megaphones looked and sounded. Even the crappy Emgo ones that only lasted a few years sounded pretty good.

That sound probably cost a couple horsepower, but oh the sound.