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To hone or not to hone that is the question. NGC
« on: October 17, 2023, 06:18:59 PM »
 I'm trying to figure out some issues with my 09 KLX250 with a Bill Blue 351 kit. I took off the top end so I had to order some new gaskets from BB to put it back together, even though I only have around 500 miles on the big bore he said I should have a ball hone run through it so the rings will seat. First time I heard of doing this while putting used piston back together. Is this something that needs to be done or just one of those you should do but no one ever does things?
 Oh the bore and rings look fine. I had low compression and it would not start, valves seem okay .
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Re: To hone or not to hone that is the question. NGC
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2023, 07:53:20 PM »
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Re: To hone or not to hone that is the question. NGC
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2023, 08:59:12 PM »
I would run a ball hone through it. It will help the rings seat. No harm, the ball hone depending on the grit won't go deep. Common practice with our 2 stroke outboards. We use ball hones because they chamfer the ports. A straightforward hone may be better though. Other minds will probably offer their ideas.
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Re: To hone or not to hone that is the question. NGC
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2023, 06:35:17 AM »
I guess the question is can you see the hone marks? They should still be there after 500 mikes iif they were there when you received it. That said honing doesn’t take much material away and not sure it has to be a ball hone. A few passes with any hone should do it.

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Re: To hone or not to hone that is the question. NGC
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2023, 10:53:28 AM »
Used the same rings?

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Re: To hone or not to hone that is the question. NGC
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2023, 11:17:11 AM »
 Yes ,I guess i'll get it honed.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2023, 11:17:38 AM by steven c »
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Re: To hone or not to hone that is the question. NGC
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2023, 04:23:25 PM »
Never heard anyone recommend a hone without new rings, but honing and old rings is better than new rings and no honing. But the stock rings and bore should have lapped well together by now - would honing improve things?
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Re: To hone or not to hone that is the question. NGC
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2023, 09:37:01 PM »
Total seal piston rings has some informative videos on the subject, maybe you can find something there.
https://youtu.be/-LnyqSXi65Y?si=4Gw3vUUcUwmJIPHY
This video I watched at 1.5 speed but there are some better ones there.
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Re: To hone or not to hone that is the question. NGC
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2023, 08:42:27 AM »
Total seal piston rings has some informative videos on the subject, maybe you can find something there.
https://youtu.be/-LnyqSXi65Y?si=4Gw3vUUcUwmJIPHY
This video I watched at 1.5 speed but there are some better ones there.

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