Advice on a fly and ride (dealer) pls

[Tom]

Yeah........

[boatdetective]

You dodged a bullet!!  A good bike will come your way for a fair price. 

AND - what are you looking for?  There are a lot of eagle eyed peeps on WG.  We love to help spread the Guzzi virus.   

The REAL problem is that, despite all my experience with the marque, I feel...myself...bei ng drawn...back into the vortex. You bastards here aren't any help.

You are all ENABLERS!

I feel like getting something that's a little bit better with wind/buffeting while on the highway.  I'm not exactly thrilled with the Norge. The last CARC 8V Stelvios seem like a good possibility.
The 1200 8V seems like a high water mark for the brand. After dealing with the roller issue, they sound like pretty proven engines. I have no problem doing my own work. I just don't want to deal with electronic BS with the dash or fueling.

Of course, the new V100 Mandellos look lovely. I have no idea how they are working out for people.  I don't know if we have to "wait for the bugs to pop up" or if this new water cooled engine is the real deal.

[Perazzimx14]

The REAL problem is that, despite all my experience with the marque, I feel...myself...bei ng drawn...back into the vortex. You bastards here aren't any help.

You are all ENABLERS!

I feel like getting something that's a little bit better with wind/buffeting while on the highway.  I'm not exactly thrilled with the Norge. The last CARC 8V Stelvios seem like a good possibility.
The 1200 8V seems like a high water mark for the brand. After dealing with the roller issue, they sound like pretty proven engines. I have no problem doing my own work. I just don't want to deal with electronic BS with the dash or fueling.

Of course, the new V100 Mandellos look lovely. I have no idea how they are working out for people.  I don't know if we have to "wait for the bugs to pop up" or if this new water cooled engine is the real deal.

Thats the problem, the hard parts are easy to work on it when the electronic go tits up that it gets complicated and can quickly render the bike in to a giant paperweight. I also agree the CARC bikes were some of the best and would have preferred if Guzzi built upon them but honestly even if they did I would not likley been a buyer.

If you are wanting an Adventure style bike that is reasonable priced, has great supports and parts availbility very easy to work on look at the oil cooled R1200GS. The Hexheads were from 2004 - 2009 and the Camhead 2010-2013. I'm not one to kiss an tell what I pay for thing but I can tell you I bought a 2011 R1200GS with OEM top case and panniers super clean at 13,400 miles and paid just a shade over $4,000. I will also say I am a huge fan of the Hexheads (owned 19 of them) but after getting a Camhead its provign to change my mind. The Camhead has a bit more power and a bit less weight (lightest of all the oil cooled 1100/1150/1200 series) and if it had electroniic cruise control would be perfect.

I will say the GS is like most Guzzi's. If you ride it for 10 miles you'll not get it. If you give it some time (an afternoon or weekend) thigns will start to click.

If you find yourself in south central Pennsylvania and want to take the 2011 out for a few hours, sing out. I'll top up the tank and point you towards the mountains.

[boatdetective]

As we speak I am puttering on my ‘14 R1200R cam head. Great machine. I rented a ‘17 120OGS and it was shockingly good on the highway. Good low speed handling, comfy. I get why they are so popular. I dunno about the current crop of Beemers. I will grant that they seem to have done a tremendous amount of work on the 1300GS.

[Moparnut72]

Norges pop up all the time at very reasonable prices. There are a couple in the swap meet. They are kind of in the middle of the country. As to the Mandellos there were a few niggles when they first came out a few bigger issues but I think most of that is behind us. Mine has been trouble free except for a reluctant transmission in the beginning which just needed some miles to smooth out.
kk

[Bulldog9]

The REAL problem is that, despite all my experience with the marque, I feel...myself...bei ng drawn...back into the vortex. You bastards here aren't any help.

You are all ENABLERS!

I feel like getting something that's a little bit better with wind/buffeting while on the highway.  I'm not exactly thrilled with the Norge. The last CARC 8V Stelvios seem like a good possibility.
The 1200 8V seems like a high water mark for the brand. After dealing with the roller issue, they sound like pretty proven engines. I have no problem doing my own work. I just don't want to deal with electronic BS with the dash or fueling.

Of course, the new V100 Mandellos look lovely. I have no idea how they are working out for people.  I don't know if we have to "wait for the bugs to pop up" or if this new water cooled engine is the real deal.

Awe, such a nice thing to say.... You are welcome!

[boatdetective]

Norges pop up all the time at very reasonable prices. There are a couple in the swap meet. They are kind of in the middle of the country. As to the Mandellos there were a few niggles when they first came out a few bigger issues but I think most of that is behind us. Mine has been trouble free except for a reluctant transmission in the beginning which just needed some miles to smooth out.
kk

The V100 is absolutely gorgeous. How tall are you and how is it in the highway?

[boatdetective]

Awe, such a nice thing to say.... You are welcome!

I can hear the siren's song of tinkling wrenches luring me yet again to the rocky shores of Mandello del Lario.

[Perazzimx14]

As we speak I am puttering on my ‘14 R1200R cam head. Great machine. I rented a ‘17 120OGS and it was shockingly good on the highway. Good low speed handling, comfy. I get why they are so popular. I dunno about the current crop of Beemers. I will grant that they seem to have done a tremendous amount of work on the 1300GS.

I cannot get by the looks of the 1300’s but will say my 2020 and current 2924 R1250GSA are the bees expensive knees. With that if the Hex/cam head GS/GSA had electronic cruise control I’d have not spent the $25,000 premium on a watercooled 1250 to get it.


I will say I truly dislike the keyless ride that is omnipresent on late model BMW’s. The keyless ride on my 2024 is good for the ignition and gas cap but I still need a key to open the other 12 locks on the bike. A $600 fob verses a $80 chipped key, I’ll take the key.

[Moparnut72]

The V100 is absolutely gorgeous. How tall are you and how is it in the highway?

I am 6'0" with a 32" inseam. The bars were a bit low for me but I am old, 80, so it may be just fine for you. I put Rox risers on mine allowing me to sit up straight making it easier on my wrists. The bike's handling impresses me every time I ride it. Fast or slow just incredible.
kk