Stelvio Oil Alternatives

[56Pan]

The comment about oil cooling jets in diesel engines reminded me of a problem I had with a replacement diesel eng. in my Chevy pickup.  NGC here.  The new eng. was the later mil. surplus model and had oil cooling jets.  The company I bought it from had put on a new stock oil pump for the earlier style engines with no piston oil cooling jets.  My oil pressure was_way_down until I put the later pump on.  Apparently, on a GM 6.5 diesel V8, the piston oil cooling jets really flow. The pump gears were at least half again bigger than the earlier pump.  Good to know, at least to me, that my Norge engine is so designed.

[Larry]

Any oil that meets the specs. I use Penrite Ten Tenths premium ten 10/60. It does its job. So do many others.

Thanks Pete

Larry

[kidsmoke]

so if ya'll had a Jackal running like a top, with no knowledge of the contents of the oil pan, with 25k on the clock, and 3 liters of 20W50 and 3 liters of 10W60 full syn on your bench, what would put in the motor.

 

[Lannis]

so if ya'll had a Jackal running like a top, with no knowledge of the contents of the oil pan, with 25k on the clock, and 3 liters of 20W50 and 3 liters of 10W60 full syn on your bench, what would put in the motor.

 

I'd have a look at the owner's manual first.

Lannis

[canuguzzi]

Because then there would be nothing to talk about.   There would be no more "Local rider and Mom in your town finds this one weird secret way to make your engine last longer".    No more "Insane oil tipz - Must See!".

Use a good quality 10W60 oil and change it every 10K km like the book says.   No one has ever found a way to make an engine last longer or run better doing anything else.

But for some reason people say "My opinion is that I should use ..."  or "I only use ...." or "I can get Rectum 20W50 at my local Dollar General so I'm sure that 20W50 is OK ...".    The busy man in brown shorts will bring a year's supply of any oil you want right to your door in two days, so "availability" is never an issue.

Just something to talk smack about ... Nothing wrong with that, I suppose.

Lannis

If anyone wants Rectum 20W50, I'll ship it to them by the gallon or quart for free, no skimping on the volume either.

Comes with a nifty pour spout, a handi-rag and litmus paper to test the viscosity to prove you aren't being cheated. Please specify if you want the clear or milky white jugs. I can put them on the weekly re-order plan too, no extra charge. And, for a limited time, no need to order two, its an automatic order 1 get 2.

[kidsmoke]

I'd have a look at the owner's manual first.

Lannis

noted. manual not present

[Lannis]

noted. manual not present

In this modern world, everything is ALWAYS present.

I typed in "Moto Guzzi Jackal Users Manual Oil" and was immediately directed to the "This Old Tractor" site

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/mg_manuals/workshop_manual_california_update_en_de_ne.pdf

which has a PDF copy of the Jackal users manual.   On page "4" it tells you to use AGIP 4T SAE 5W40 in the engine.

25 seconds, info received, and it's NOT 20W50 or 10W60 that is recommended, so a good job you asked.

Lannis

[bad Chad]

Of course Lannis, you know that recommendation in the owners manual has been superseded by a subsequent informational release.   

That release has been posted to this web site many times.  From my memory the Jackal is spec'd 20w50.

[Lannis]

Of course Lannis, you know that recommendation in the owners manual has been superseded by a subsequent informational release.   

That release has been posted to this web site many times.  From my memory the Jackal is spec'd 20w50.

Well, see, you not only get the original information BUT you get the informational release updates, all right here on the site at your fingertips and all within a few minutes .... paper manuals and dealer information not necessary.   

But are you really sure about that "informational release" that has been posted "many times"?    Can you find one for us? 

Lannis

[kidsmoke]

In this modern world, everything is ALWAYS present.

I typed in "Moto Guzzi Jackal Users Manual Oil" and was immediately directed to the "This Old Tractor" site

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/mg_manuals/workshop_manual_california_update_en_de_ne.pdf

which has a PDF copy of the Jackal users manual.   On page "4" it tells you to use AGIP 4T SAE 5W40 in the engine.

25 seconds, info received, and it's NOT 20W50 or 10W60 that is recommended, so a good job you asked.

Lannis

good points (re: in this modern world)

and thanks for the effort and the info.

I intended it as something of a rhetorical question...given the contents of this thread...kinda saying...ok then, given all this information, IF you found yourself in this situation, what would you do?

to your first point, it reminds of a line I saw somewhere:

I possess a device, in my pocket, that is capable of accessing the entirety of information known to man. I use it to look at pictures of cats and get in arguments with strangers.

 

[Lannis]

I possess a device, in my pocket, that is capable of accessing the entirety of information known to man. I use it to look at pictures of cats and get in arguments with strangers.

 

Yup, that's what most people do with them.

But your question could also be:

"I have 5 quarts of kerosene and I have 5 quarts of chain-saw bar oil.    Which one should I put in my motorcycle?"

Sounds sort of like "Just answer yes or no - Have you stopped beating your wife?"   Neither of the allowed answers is any good, so maybe the answerer can suggest another ... ?

Lannis

[DAM650]

I got motul 8100 x power 10w60. 
Guessing that should be fine

Previous owners running liquid moly



Anyone object?

[kingoffleece]

Man oh man, nobody ever reads my posts.  Here it is straight from the factory. manual specs have been superseeded.  Read the chart.

[kballowe]

hahahahaha - oil threads never die.  This one is ten years old.

 

[Kiwi_Roy]

so if ya'll had a Jackal running like a top, with no knowledge of the contents of the oil pan, with 25k on the clock, and 3 liters of 20W50 and 3 liters of 10W60 full syn on your bench, what would put in the motor.

 

I would use the 11W60 that's what's specified for the V7