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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2017, 10:17:43 AM »
The "buy it now" doesn't mean much.  It's the reserve that counts.  The $13,000 BIN is "pie in the sky, rich guy has to have it now" pricing. 

If our friend has the reserve set somewhere in the $6000 to $7000 range, then it will sell to the highest bidder.

I predict the bidding could go as high as $8,000.  That's about the highest I've seen one of these sell for in the last five years.

Last year, one sold for $11K on eBay.

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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2017, 10:20:27 AM »
So, help me out. What makes some Moto Guzzis more valuable than others? Case in point:
2004 Coppa Italia - estimated value $8k - $13K
2003 Scura - available for $3500. It is also a limited edition bike. Same engine and frame?
https://amarillo.craigslist.org/mcy/6135438796.html

Granted, the Coppa has a nice tri-color paint job, and is probably cleaner, but $5k more?
What makes the difference?
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2017, 10:35:31 AM »
BTW, they do stand out in the crowd  :thumb:


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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2017, 10:40:38 AM »
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Granted, the Coppa has a nice tri-color paint job, and is probably cleaner, but $5k more?
What makes the difference?

That particular Scura needs work. An average Scura is probably more like 5-6K. The Coppa *does* seem to be one of the "collectable" Guzzis, though. That perception might drive the price a little higher. <shrug>
Yes, essentially the same bike. I personally prefer the fly screen of the Scura. To me, the Coppa's seems a little..uh..tacked on. Of course YMMV.
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2017, 10:44:00 AM »
Meh..It looks like they couldn't decide if they were building a naked or fared  bike .. the nose give it an unbalanced look,  I personally don't like the aesthetic.

 

But it ain't no dog salmon.... I'd have one in my shop; even just to look at.
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2017, 10:59:03 AM »
So, help me out. What makes some Moto Guzzis more valuable than others? Case in point:
2004 Coppa Italia - estimated value $8k - $13K
2003 Scura - available for $3500. It is also a limited edition bike. Same engine and frame?
https://amarillo.craigslist.org/mcy/6135438796.html

Granted, the Coppa has a nice tri-color paint job, and is probably cleaner, but $5k more?
What makes the difference?

Easy. 

1) Scura came in primer black.
2) Scura came with exploding single plate clutch that really should be replaced with a twin plate.
3) While Scura has Ohlins, the factory specs were a mess and they require a lot more setup than the later Ohlins equipped machines.

IF you can find a Scura that's had its clutch replaced,its suspension set up, and maybe has the race exhaust and ECU, you'll see it go for for $5500 - $6000.

If not, then you have to factor those costs into the bike, which pushes the sale price down.

By 2004, when the Coppa Italia and Nero Corsa were on sale, the clutch and suspension settings issues had been fixed by the factory.
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2017, 11:01:28 AM »
Last year, one sold for $11K on eBay.

I seem to recall that outlier.   My prediction still stands.

((yes, I've been wrong a time or two))
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2017, 11:20:46 AM »
The Cafe Sport is a better comparison than the Scura. Same bike except for the paint.
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2017, 11:57:48 AM »
Yes Bill , hope you get you price.  I replaced my Fly Screen. (have all original parts packed away safely.)
 

......And added a Lemans Fairing.   It does transform the bike.  Great color , but I am bias. 

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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2017, 12:23:21 PM »
Easy. 

1) Scura came in primer black.
2) Scura came with exploding single plate clutch that really should be replaced with a twin plate.
3) While Scura has Ohlins, the factory specs were a mess and they require a lot more setup than the later Ohlins equipped machines.

IF you can find a Scura that's had its clutch replaced,its suspension set up, and maybe has the race exhaust and ECU, you'll see it go for for $5500 - $6000.

If not, then you have to factor those costs into the bike, which pushes the sale price down.

By 2004, when the Coppa Italia and Nero Corsa were on sale, the clutch and suspension settings issues had been fixed by the factory.
Thanks for the info. It's good to know.
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2017, 12:31:19 PM »
Yep. Buy It Now means I'll stop the auction and you can have it now   :drool:
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2017, 12:50:35 PM »
Joe,
Your bike looks good with that Lemans fairing. I believe someone else has one with the fairing painted to match the tank. More attractive than the Coppa. I had a red 2003 Lemans before the Coppa.
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2017, 02:44:04 PM »
Thanks to all my well wishers, The Coppa did sell for the buy it price. Good bikes kind of sell themselves.
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2017, 02:59:55 PM »
Congrats, it's great to see 'good bikes' sell for good money.
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #44 on: July 05, 2017, 03:52:11 PM »
The Coppa did sell for the buy it price. Good bikes kind of sell themselves.
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2017, 05:09:22 PM »
Wow...so it did sell for $13K?  That's good news indeed...maybe the Scuras will appreciate as well by proxy!

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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2017, 07:03:10 PM »
You guys with the Scuras are going to have have to disguise them as Coppas
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2017, 07:28:02 PM »
You guys with the Scuras are going to have have to disguise them as Coppas

Naa, the Scuras are better looking.. :evil: :smiley:
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2017, 09:32:33 PM »
Naa, the Scuras are better looking.. :evil: :smiley:

Hey...I wasn't looking to start a skirmish here!  :)  ...but the Scura is damn fine looking!  :)
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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2017, 05:47:56 AM »
Doesn't show a BIN on eBay, says listing removed?  So it did sell?

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Re: Beautiful 04 Coppa Italia for sale on eBay
« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2017, 11:57:04 AM »
Wow!  Congrats!  $13K would be the highest I've ever seen one of the Ohlins-equipped '03-'04 V11's sell for.  Obviously, I haven't seen all of the past sales, but quite a few.  That's up there!

 

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