question regarding title....

[arveno]

for example:

Mister A , buy a motorcycle from Mister B .
The title is clear , in name of mister C

Mister B bought the bike from Mister C , never titled it , lost interest ( wife says to sell ) so put it up for sale and mister A buy it.

Problem is that mister B signed the title when got the bike from Mister C.

Now mister A cannot go to the DMV and register it because the title was signed by mister B and DMV clerk had a bad day so did not give mister A any info on how to solve this problem 

Title is clear FL state.

Mister A and B tried, unsuccessfully to get in touch with Mister C ( to ask to apply for duplicate title that will make everything easier. )


what a mess..... eh ?!!

Have you even been in such a position ? how did you get out of it ?


Thanks
Marco

[canuguzzi]

Yes. Go the the DMV, sign paperwork there, ask DMV to verify it and then issue title in your name (in California they would send it but just a little time).

You do this because if you aren't careful here is what happens:

1. You buy it.
2. DMV wants the tax from the prior sale.
3. You end up paying that or;

you have to argue about it and waste a lot of time and energy fixing something that should have been fixed.

I am willing to bet the person you are buying it from never paid sales tax when they bought it from the original owner. Why get involved in something like that?

If the DMV won't help, you are just buying a problem and taking that problem off someone else's hands and filling yours.

His wife will be thrilled. If you have a wife, she will not be.

[ibis1]

Go to a private tag agency. They are not state employees and only make money when they provide a service. They can instruct you on how to solve your problem the correct way. These businesses provide a good service at a very reasonable rate and you avoid long lines and indifferent people. Good luck.

[Triple Jim]

You could always get B to finish what he started by signing the title, and get one in his name.  It's his mistake, signing it if he didn't intend to get a new title, so an argument could be made that it's his responsibility to follow through.

If B isn't interested in paying, you could pay for the new title in his name, then pay again to get one in your name.  It really depends on how big these fees are.  Here in NC it's pretty low key.  Also, here in NC, I could get a title without any paperwork by paying $100 for a title bond.

[cruzziguzzi]

Yup, deal with it often enough as to have had three last month - Wifey has an estate sale business.

Me, in your case, I'd have MR.B jump through the hoops and have him follow through on registration and title issue in his name then proceed from there.

Some states have an on-hand "affidavit"(?) that me and "B" would have signed and notarized leap-frogging a step. This happened a couple three times when I was in the Army.

I really like the above comment as to checking with a private licensing contractor should they be available in your state.

Lastly though I think I learned of option b above there - try AAA. They have been a huge help to me in the past with curfuffles, DMV.

Todd.

[nunzio]

for example:

Mister A , buy a motorcycle from Mister B .
The title is clear , in name of mister C

Mister B bought the bike from Mister C , never titled it , lost interest ( wife says to sell ) so put it up for sale and mister A buy it.

Problem is that mister B signed the title when got the bike from Mister C.

Now mister A cannot go to the DMV and register it because the title was signed by mister B and DMV clerk had a bad day so did not give mister A any info on how to solve this problem 

Title is clear FL state.

Mister A and B tried, unsuccessfully to get in touch with Mister C ( to ask to apply for duplicate title that will make everything easier. )


what a mess..... eh ?!!

Have you even been in such a position ? how did you get out of it ?


Thanks
Marco

Walk away !!!

[rocker59]

A:  walk away.

B:  Have the guy whose name is on the back of the old title to get the vehicle titled in his name, so you can get it titled in your name.

Basically, he doesn't want to pay sales tax and fees, so never titled it in his name.  It was a dumb move on his part to fill in the back of the title, but at this point the only avenue is for him to finish what he started in order to clear up the title.

It's NOT a CLEAR TITLE if he has signed the back of a title as a buyer for a title that's not in his name.

[rodekyll]

Why make his mess your problem?  Tell him if he wants to sell it he needs the paperwork in order.  Ask him to call you when it's complete.  As far as you know, without the paperwork, he's not the legal owner and can't sell it.  If he does sell it to you and something stinks, the smell is on you.  The actual titled owner could simply walk up, and for lack of any documentation to the contrary, claim it's his bike and ride it home.  You're left with a meaningless 'title' and a cashed check.  They look great in a frame over the mantle, but they're useless in the twisties.

[Groover]

If I'm understanding this correctly, seems like a simple solution that rocker59 also pointed out. Mister B just needs to get a title from Mister C in his name (as planned before he lost interest), then sign the new title to Mister A, and done.

[Triple Jim]

Why make his mess your problem?  Tell him if he wants to sell it he needs the paperwork in order.

As I understand the original post, Mr. A already bought the motorcycle from Mr. B.

[rocker59]

As I understand the original post, Mr. A already bought the motorcycle from Mr. B.

Moral of the story:  NEVER buy a vehicle that has a title in a name other than the person you're buying from, especially if the person you're buying it from signed the back and did not get it titled in his name.

Using the words "Clear Title" in this thread makes me laugh.  Had Mister B left the back of the title blank, then yes, it would've technically been a "clear title".  Once Mister B signed the back of  Mister C's title as a buyer, it was not a clear title for Mister A.

[Lannis]

Sometimes we just want the bike SO BADLY that we do things we regret later to get them.

I hear that it happens with women too.

Lannis

[nunzio]

The very FIRST question I ask when calling about a bike is.....

"Do you have a title in YOUR name?"

If the answer is "NO".... then the conversation ends with a "call me when you do!"

[Groover]

In this case, can't Mister B just complete the task of getting the Title in his name? Once he has that, then signs the new Title he just got so A can get a New title in his name? I think C is done, there shouldn't be a need to contact them anymore. It's all in the hands of B at this point.

[Lannis]

In this case, can't Mister B just complete the task of getting the Title in his name?

I'll bet he just don't wanna.   Costs money, trip to the DMV an' all.   He wants A to "handle it, handle it".    He'll need to hear an offer he can't refuse.

Lannis

[nunzio]

In this case, can't Mister B just complete the task of getting the Title in his name? Once he has that, then signs the new Title he just got so A can get a New title in his name? I think C is done, there shouldn't be a need to contact them anymore. It's all in the hands of B at this point.

I think I saw a clip of Abbott and Costello explaining this. 

[canuguzzi]

You're buying someone else's problem. There are a lot of problems for sale. Who not just buy something with a good, clean and clear title?

Did they make only of these bikes? There is another, at a better price and in better condition. There always is.

If they did make only one, why be the one person that has to have it?