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NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« on: October 29, 2015, 08:02:44 PM »
got home from my commute about 2 hours ago and just noticed this,



until now this has been my very reliable ride all summer and gets 100 miles per gallon!
In order to make it into November I'll ride the Uly..
In all fairness I thrash the thing at 50mph aand over, nearly pinned on the 1 ways in and out of downtown..

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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2015, 08:07:42 PM »


Base gasket...? 
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2015, 08:10:15 PM »
I've got a 195cc motor that will fit that  :evil:

It has 12:1 compression, makes just north of 20 HP (vs. 9HP for the stock 125), but is a bastard to start.

P.S. I'll sell it it to you if you're interested.
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2015, 08:15:53 PM »
Quote from: jas67 on October 29, 2015, 08:10:15 PM
I've got a 195cc motor that will fit that  :evil:

It has 12:1 compression, makes just north of 20 HP (vs. 9HP for the stock 125), but is a bastard to start.

P.S. I'll sell it it to you if you're interested.
hm, I'm not into kicking all morning to start but if it just takes a little starting fluid spray I may be interested..
it would really honk with that motor, pardon the goose pun..
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 08:43:34 PM »
From the photo, it could be something as simple as the float valve stuck open and leaked fuel.
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 08:50:22 PM »
Quote from: Triple Jim on October 29, 2015, 08:43:34 PM
From the photo, it could be something as simple as the float valve stuck open and leaked fuel.

 Looks like an electrical problem to me  :huh:

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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 08:58:01 PM »
Quote from: Triple Jim on October 29, 2015, 08:43:34 PM
From the photo, it could be something as simple as the float valve stuck open and leaked fuel.
it's motor oil
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 09:00:57 PM »
  Yes, obviously electrical.  There is juice leaking out.  Or it is just incontinent.  Have its' bladder checked.
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 09:03:28 PM »
Quote from: fotoguzzi on October 29, 2015, 08:58:01 PM
it's motor oil

Oh no!   Not another oil thread?    :evil:

Quote from: fotoguzzi on October 29, 2015, 08:15:53 PM
hm, I'm not into kicking all morning to start but if it just takes a little starting fluid spray I may be interested..
it would really honk with that motor, pardon the goose pun..

It is a ritual to start this beast.    I had one like it in my Madass before I sold it.  The Madass' stock CDI didn't retard the timing on startup.   You had to remember to put the kill switch on stop when bringing it around to just past TDC to kick it, or the damned thing will kick back, which can brake the engine case, kicker shaft, your ankle, or any of the above.

This engine came on a CT70 that I thought would be fun.     I had to replace the crank, because I messed that up trying to remove the flywheel to diagnose an ignition problem.   I haven't put it back in the bike yet, but, would be happy to just sell the motor, and put a stocker in it to sell it (the CT70).

If you want more speed with an electric start, you can get a 150cc with electric start and a bigger carb.

Upgrading these can be a real money pit.   It is probably best to just enjoy it as it is.   As for the oil leak, clean the engine off real well, and run it again.   You should be able to see where it is leaking from.   Hopefully, it isn't the gasket where the two crankcase halves meet.   If it is, it isn't the end of the world, as these motors can be torn down and reassembled in about 2 hours.
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2015, 09:10:52 PM »
Quote from: jas67 on October 29, 2015, 09:03:28 PM
    You should be able to see where it is leaking from.   Hopefully, it isn't the gasket where the two crankcase halves meet.   
on preliminary inspection, it looks like the gasket where the two halves meet just like you say..

I'll clean and inspect this weekend.
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2015, 09:16:27 PM »
50 mph pulling you around?   poor thing.   :tongue:
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2015, 09:58:00 PM »
Quote from: fotoguzzi on October 29, 2015, 09:10:52 PM
on preliminary inspection, it looks like the gasket where the two halves meet just like you say..

I'll clean and inspect this weekend.

Tighten the bolts maybe?
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2015, 10:02:05 PM »
Quote from: Triple Jim on October 29, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Tighten the bolts maybe?

 :1:

That'd be my first try.
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 12:42:13 AM »
Maybe an old Harley sneaked into the alley and raped the poor thing :whip2: :whip2:
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 06:17:30 AM »
Since it's football season.....

Can we see a picture of you riding it?














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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2015, 07:15:13 AM »
Clean the area good and JB weld it.....
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2015, 08:15:27 AM »
 Tape a depends on the bottom, that's how a red suspender Guzzi rider would do it.
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2015, 09:25:23 AM »
Old Bike,that was funny       Sasquatch that was funnier    Guista I spit my Wheaties all over the keyboard :bow:  you win the prize for funny!!!
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2015, 11:56:56 AM »
Quote from: Triple Jim on October 29, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Tighten the bolts maybe?

The correct torque procedure is to tighten JUST until it starts to get easier, then back off 1/4 turn.   

At least that's how most people do it.

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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2015, 12:31:20 PM »
I've felt my share of "starts to get easier".  Fortunately, after several decades of cleaning up my messes, I'm more gentle with the wrench now.
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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2015, 05:55:58 PM »
Quote from: oldbike54 on October 29, 2015, 08:50:22 PM
Looks like an electrical problem to me  :huh:

  Dusty

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Re: NGC Oh O this isn't good.
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2015, 10:45:31 PM »
Quote from: oldbike54 on October 29, 2015, 08:50:22 PM
Looks like an electrical problem to me  :huh:

  Dusty

You apparently missed Eldomike's thread about having your eyes examined, Dusty...

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