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Offline jas67

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Re: What next for suspension?
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2015, 10:13:10 PM »
Where is the ability to adjust the suspension, store the preference and then recall it as needed?

Sounds like the next feature for BMW to add to ESA.
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Re: What next for suspension?
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2015, 11:01:08 PM »
Mediocre suspension on fairly pricey bikes reminds me of the Ford Pinto, which came with no oil cooler for the automatic transmission.  My instructor at the local Junior College automotive mechanics program 30 years ago remarked that it would have cost Ford $7 (in the early 1970s when the Pinto came out) to add a simple oil cooler to the transmission.  This would have doubled transmission life.  Nope, Ford nixed the idea.  The 7 buck saving was more important. 

The better suspension query would apply also to the miserable seats on most OEM motorcycles.  There is a huge demand for aftermarket seats, which cost from $500 to over $800 each.  It might cost a manufacturer $50-100 more to supply a good OEM seat, but they never seem to get the message...

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Re: What next for suspension?
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2015, 02:56:27 AM »
Like the point about seats. Guy was showing me his 60s Lambretta other day. Seat has springs in it like an old bed. New seats are just naff by comparison. Maybe this is a new thread?

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Re: What next for suspension?
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2015, 03:06:53 AM »
Had a talk with Seacoast sport cycles about how to improve on the showa Griso forks and they said they commonly replace the springs and install Olins valves. They said it would make a big difference in tun-ability. Sounds like it would be a worthwhile investment. Has anyone tried this on a Griso?

Hot ticket here in Oz is the Matris inserts. Mark B and Mark S both have them I believe and swear by them. They are the next thing on my wish list :evil:  I also need a softer spring for my Matris rear shock. Matris seem to over-spring their stuff for comfortable road use.

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Re: What next for suspension?
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2015, 07:08:10 AM »
Speed costs...how fast ya wanna go?

Price some Penske shocks for a dirt late model.
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Re: What next for suspension?
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2015, 01:39:13 AM »
OP may consider,

http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/ace/overview/

Wonder what cost is for girder fork option?

Offline jacksonracingcomau

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Re: What next for suspension?
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2015, 06:11:41 AM »
Good thread
Adjustable suspension is great, parameters limited by vaalving, spring rate and design
Electronically done, absolutely ditto
Caponord good example, if you ask for cliampliant suspenders you get half an engine
Twiddly diddly buttons help some, but not the Fussiest.
Time spent, not money, anyone wants better, work yourself or with expert to get what YOU need, not possible from box.
My 2c
Early forks with emulators easier than cartridges to get "right" (cope with travelling not a track)
Pre load adjusters on forks help but add/subtract washers will get you there if patient

 

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