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Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« on: November 05, 2015, 04:42:35 AM »

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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 04:58:00 AM »
No, only a graphic elaboration of Oberdan Bezzi, using an engine that will not be updated to meet the future pollution standards.

However, using the Bellagio base, there is better to me.






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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2015, 06:11:58 AM »


I LOVE those!    As you stated, the 2V(/cyl) big block will never get updated, but, they could put the current 8V motor should be a bolt-in.

Do it, Guzzi, DO IT GUZZI!

They should make a version of the Record fairing to fit it too!
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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2015, 07:44:56 AM »
I LOVE those!    As you stated, the 2V(/cyl) big block will never get updated, but, they could put the current 8V motor should be a bolt-in.

Alternator in the current 8valve will not fit into that frame.

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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2015, 10:15:51 AM »
Radical Guzzi managed to fit it into the Tonti frame. Is not bolt-in, but it's possible (they had their fair share of problems to solve, but mainly for adapting the transmission, that's not required with a Bellagio frame).



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They used the old alternator obviously, but in a classic-naked there is no need of much electricity.
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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2015, 10:31:34 AM »
Radical Guzzi managed to fit it into the Tonti frame. Is not bolt-in, but it's possible (they had their fair share of problems to solve, but mainly for adapting the transmission, that's not required with a Bellagio frame).



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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2015, 04:26:20 PM »
Not a chance!  Look at how huge that motor looks in that chase.   And how the hell would a small block frame handle the force put on it by a 100 plus horse power at the wheel?   Major changes would need to be made.  Much easier I would think to go with a big block frame.
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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2015, 04:36:54 PM »
Not a chance!  Look at how huge that motor looks in that chase.   And how the hell would a small block frame handle the force put on it by a 100 plus horse power at the wheel?   Major changes would need to be made.  Much easier I would think to go with a big block frame.

The Bellagio is a "big block" frame.

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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2015, 04:42:53 PM »
Someone mentioned in another thread that they liked the way you can see air/space around the engine on the Triumph Modern Classics. I hadn't really thought about that before, but I like that, too. Look at all the space around that engine!

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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2015, 04:56:43 PM »
OK my mistake.  It looked like a small box Tonti to me.
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Re: Guzzi's answer to the new Triumph Classics?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2015, 05:00:11 PM »
I actually did pick up on that. It's a glaring issue with the current Bonnie. The "negative space" is a definite characteristic of the original. I am positive that this caused the engineers fits! I can imagine there were plenty of fights with the designers: "sounds cute, but where are we supposed to jam all the other crap??"

Once again, another reason to heap praise on the folks running the show at Triumph. This is a well thought out visual design from the ground up. I can't wait to see what designer Glynn Kerr from MCN has to say.
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