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I know it's moot since you're already in the process of the 'upgrades' but for discussion's sake, what are the ramifications of simply not getting the bike inspected in Deutschland?
I like it. I thought those self-retracting sidestands were dangerous.Interesting front fender, and you can get away with only one mirror and those tiny turn signals ( can't even see any in the back)?Rich A
John, I too have a shitload of old Tonti stuff hanging about in the 'Mountain of Munt' I cam probably even dig out a side stand if you have problems. Let me know if I can help.Pete
One of the things that could have been done is to take the bike with the oem stuff on it for the inspection. Rolling in with the bike the way it's set up starts to set off violation markers for the inspector to look for. As a former inspector, I'd start looking at the obvious cues first.
The bike is mechanically very sound and all brake and suspension components are excellent. But as you indicated, there's something about the bike that inspectors don't like. But I don't have a lot of the OEM equipment to just bolt on for the inspection. That's what I'm busy sourcing now.There was a period when not only the size of tyre, but also the manufacturer and type was indicated in the vehicle documents. You HAD to have that tyre, or one where the manufacturer certified that it was safe to use on your vehicle. Luckily the T3 precedes that time, and that law no longer applies to new bikes (one advantage of European legislation trumping German law!). But when I had the Quota, my choice of tyres was VERY limited.John
The bike is mechanically very sound and all brake and suspension components are excellent. But as you indicated, there's something about the bike that inspectors don't like. But I don't have a lot of the OEM equipment to just bolt on for the inspection. That's what I'm busy sourcing now.There was a period when not only the size of tyre, but also the manufacturer and type was indicated in the vehicle documents. You HAD to have that tyre, or one where the manufacturer certified that it was safe to use on your vehicle. Luckily the T3 precedes that time, and that law no longer applies to new bikes (one advantage of European legislation trumping German law!). But when I had the Quota, my choice of tyres was VERY limited.Looks like you have to modify it back to oem for inspection purposes. Probably best to have a good working relationship with your inspection station. I was the motorcycle guy at our station. If I didn't get grief from an owner, I suggest to them what they needed to do.John
Well, I suppose that there are some advantages to those very "tight" laws, and some disadvantages. Got to "take the sour with the sweet" as the old saying goes .... ! It's one of the reasons we have different countries so you get a choice between sharing the road with trained, mature motorcycle riders on stock equipment, or share it with wild-eyed 16-year-olds on extended-swingarm Hayabusas running car tires ... !Lannis
As in most things, a sensible middle ground would probably be the best. John
Here's my question. Currently I don't have any breather return valve. The hoses just goes up from the crankcase to the breather box near the coils. When I put the new breather in (pushes into the rubber air box) I guess I will need to put in a valve otherwise the suction might do stuff I don't want it to!. How does that plug in there? Any tips on location and orientation appreciated. Unfortunately it is not clear from the parts diagram.RegardsJohn
Should the valve be inserted between 2 pieces of hose? Or is it fitted directly to the top of the motor? I assume the wider part of the valve should be at the bottom, right?Maybe I'm missing part 25. Is that a metal part? Is it external?I assume the hoses marked 19 are the breather pipes from the valve covers. But then what is hose 29 and what does it connect to? Sorry, these question are probably pretty dumb when you've seen the set up. But trying to understand from the parts diagram can be difficult, and you can't always judge from the orientation. When I got the parts 5 and 4 yesterday it was clear what they are, but until then I couldn't guess from the drawing how they should be fitted :-)John
#29 is a metal oil return line and connects to the breather/airbox assembly via rubber elbow #16.
Only a very very sick mind could have invented the air filter box on the T3. It should get an award for the least user friendly construction. Putting all that crap on the bike was probably the least satisfying maintenance experience I've ever had, but it's done, and I'm off to the inspection station tomorrow.But as soon as I get the sticker, the horrible filter box is coming off, and I'm going with a home made solution that fits between the frame, up under the tank and is hardly visible. John
Only a very very sick mind could have invented the air filter box on the T3.
When you finally get it inspected, tip the inspector, then go back to him every year. NYS bike inspections are $6 and I know they cost the station $2. So the guy is making four bucks to drop what he is doing, perform the inspection, and run it through the computer. I always give them 20 and tell them to keep the change. Makes next years inspections quicker.
