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Re: seeking GoPro advice please...V7R, helmet?
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2015, 08:06:23 AM »
The Lily system is impressive and if wanting a drone, perhaps. I want it to be able to track me at speed and have hours of endurance. The tech for that is expensive.

A bit of homework several years ago led me to VIO.
1) Power is your devil. Extra proprietary battery packs are a necessity. My VIO uses 4 AA size NiMH ones with spare sets charged. 3-4 hours run time not 20 minutes, temperature dependent. Recharge in 30-45 minutes with an Eveready charger once home. Two hours or more for the other types is not for me. Regular alkaline ones available anywhere.
2) See 1 above.

I am not trying to flame any-one's choice of equipment. My needs are mine alone.

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Re: seeking GoPro advice please...V7R, helmet?
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2015, 08:46:03 AM »
Use multiple view points - as many as you can manage (helmet, chest, bars, low left, low right, rear, underneath etc. etc.)  really mix it up.  Single POV get's stale really quickly regardless of how nice the scenery is. Get a second or third GoPro or use the video capability of your digital camera as well.

I try for the 5 second rule. Unless something spectacular is happening (it never is), don't dwell on a single view for more than five seconds. This involves a lot of stopping and switching, but the end result is a little more interesting.

Try doing ride pasts (camera on a tripod or just perched on a rock) - to add a different view.

Tell a story!  Add a map. Splice in stills.  Overlay commentary (either written or sound recorded) to give your video a bit of meaning.  Some people add background music. This can help set a mood, but can also be intrusive, and may result in licencing issues when you post the video (Youtube has lots of royalty free music clips you can use).  Attribute everything that isn't yours. 

Be prepared to spend some serious time.  Even my clunky amateurish videos take ages to pull together and I end up using less than 5% of the video I take. You will need to learn a video editing program - and there don't seem to be any short cuts.

Youtube works just fine.

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Re: seeking GoPro advice please...V7R, helmet?
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2015, 08:51:41 AM »
Don't forget to register your drones  :)  Now an FAA requirement.

After taking, editing and watching video it just isn't worth the time for me.  Most videos are boring (yes, including those ones listed above).  Just another motorcycle on another road.  Reminds me of the old days when people would drag out the slide projector to look at their vacation photos.

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Re: seeking GoPro advice please...V7R, helmet?
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2015, 09:19:12 AM »
Nick,

Thank you for your superb advice!  I printed out the spaniel-manual for the GoPro Studio video editing software.  A goal today is to learn more about editing, clipping and adjusting a video I took of the poodles yesterday afternoon.  Then I want to post it to Youtube and add music, and maybe commentary. 

No motorcycle ride again today:  overcast, and light rain.  Wow it has been wet in Houston.  Newspaper said 2015 was rainiest year eve in Texas (recorded).  No wonder I have been frustrated. 

I likely will buy a chest mount and also seek out a handlebar mount. 

cheers

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Re: seeking GoPro advice please...V7R, helmet?
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2015, 12:03:36 PM »
I registered my drone by the way, got my number.  Have not flown in a long time, guess the new wore off.  I did put cruise control on my 1190, oops another story.
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Re: seeking GoPro advice please...V7R, helmet?
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2015, 06:14:19 PM »
I don't have interest in the offroad school, or BMWs, but the story telling of the whole trip and experience using video with superb editing with background music was very well done and kept my attention even tho I had no interest in the subject.  Perfect length to the sessions.
Very good example how to blog on a trip of any kind.

Glad you appreciated that. Brown is part of a group of vloggers who are reinventing video in part by breaking every rule in the book. He uploads video about six days a week, and he shot and edited all four of those episodes by himself, no crew. Much of his footage is shot with a Sony RX100 (a small, light camera that can be used in selfie mode by outstretching your hand and aiming it at yourself), the footage on the bike is GoPro, and when he can he also uses a DSLR. Given his upload schedule, his work is of uneven quality, but when he's on, he's on. An ex world class kayaker (world champion in canoe marathon) he's also developed into a pretty good longer form travel videographer: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm3NV3gGB2w

Brown is part of a group of vloggers in the UK who all know one-another and frequently work together. Some have gone in a different direction, especially the Harries brothers (JacksGap), who are increasingly involved in longer form social subjects. If you wanted to get to young people on climate change, you can't do much better than this Harries brothers upload from a few days ago: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gE7vkCz39eg Note the similarity in techniques.

The best Anerican representative of this approach to video is Casey Neistat, whose short films show real talent, although I'm less enamoured of what he has produced since his decision to do daily vlogs.

By comparison, the dedicated motovloggers are in my view pretty crude.


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Re: seeking GoPro advice please...V7R, helmet?
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2015, 06:46:46 PM »
That is another good example how simple videos can be powerful snaps of real time, real places and what is going on in their world.

I tend to watch build videos, with posted data and links for parts/tools used in making of project.  I have built cedar strip canoes, sea kayaks, traditional bows all from internet videos and pictures.  Powerful stuff we deal with now adays.

This thread is my latest discovery of talent, he is rebuilding 2009 KTM 690R and made RTW trips.  http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/ktm-690-adventure-re-build.1016239/

One of his videos:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdvZkiTGkY4
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Re: seeking GoPro advice please...V7R, helmet?
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2015, 12:02:58 AM »
That is another good example how simple videos can be powerful snaps of real time, real places and what is going on in the their world.

I tend to watch build videos, with posted data and links for parts/tools used in making of project.  I have built cedar strip canoes, sea kayaks, traditional bows all from internet videos and pictures.  Powerful stuff we deal with now adays.

This thread is my latest discovery of talent, he is rebuilding 2009 KTM 690R and made RTW trips.  http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/ktm-690-adventure-re-build.1016239/

One of his videos:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdvZkiTGkY4

Thanks for that. I found it interesting watching it. I skipped through a lot because he doesn't emerge as personality until about mark 9:02. And by 9:36 the sound is seriously distorted because his gain on his recorder is way too high. Starting at about 11:42, more distortion with his music track. What this tells me is that he doesn't understand the idea of keeping audio below the level at which digital recording will create really unpleasant clipped/distorted sound. Also, way too much time lapse. That said, he has uploaded only three videos, the last some seven months ago, and it's clear that he is not interested in pursuing the idea of making serious videos, which is cool.
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Re: seeking GoPro advice please...V7R, helmet?
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2015, 12:36:25 AM »
So instead of riding with it, I should just get a drone?

I read that those Predators were being retired by the Army.  I might ask Chuck about getting one. 

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