Next gen helmets

[Mike Craven]

There’s an article “Rethinking the Next-Generation Helmet” in the Wall Street Journal today, 26 DEC 2015.  Though a lot of the article is American football directed it does note that 6-D Helmets started research focused on motorcycle helmets because of the severity of collisions.  A web search with the string “next generations helmets site:wsj.com” brings the article up for non-subscribers. I keep thinking my next helmet will have some very different balloon type cushions or something.  Now there's a 6-D Helmet street version that looks very interesting.  Anyone acquainted with them?

Cheers,
Mike

[canuguzzi]

Not them but Skully Helmets sure seems to have made quite a bit of money promising something that looks like it will ship, recall and then delay endlessly.

Much of what they said was the benefit of their original idea went poof it seems although they did get some pretty good financing and managed to get more than a few people to preorder with the hopes of actually getting something.

[frizzit]

The 6d model looks promising, basically hanging the internal foam from the shell with an elastomer for energy absorption.  IMO it is like a progressive shock used to disperse energy over a longer time causing a decrease in peak g loads all while maintaining a reasonable size and weight.  I read an article on lanesplitter.

http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/6d-has-their-own-brain-saving-street-helmet-on-the-way-1738310550

and if you really want to dig into helmet ratings check out the sharp rating.

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

and for an added bonus there are reusable inflatable head and neck restraints

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/spidi-neck-dps-airbag-vest?utm_source=product&kwd=&gclid=CjwKEAiAkvmzBRDQpozmt-uluCQSJACvCd1lR9lHPv5hv2cVLF-OWXj6QuZap4GfKS91OCn5ArXg3hoCFRrw_wcB

[canuguzzi]

I wonder what the limits are, there is only so much area and so much space limited time to dissipate or disperse energy. The brain keeps moving toward tolhe point of impact and we are talking about maybe a couple inches of separation and no matter what you do, there is only the time from impact until the brain does what it does to mitigate injury. If there was more time but there isn't and deceleration can only be managed to a certain extent.

[Rox]

I too have been waiting for the Skully.... $1500 plunge but man, they're cool... I think they pooped the bed with their delays like Norton did...

[Sasquatch Jim]

  The short distance and time duration from the brain moving at speed to not moving at all is why there are so many dead
  motorcyclist brains after crashes.  No matter what you wear, if the trauma from speed to stop is great enough, you will be dead.  This is why I have never wanted to spend more money on ludicrous amounts of horsepower in my mounts.
 If the power is there, it WILL be used from time to time.  No motorcycle needs more than 60 horsepower to double most speed limits and accelerate at a rate close to the skill limits of all but experienced racers.   Particularly when you enter into the equation, other foolish and inattentive drivers.
 Dale earnhardt the famous stock car driver was wearing all the latest high tech safety gear ever made.  He suffered no broken bones and no exterior injuries yet he was dead the instant his car stopped.  Human cells most especially brain cells never evolved to go from 190 MPH to all stop in a fraction of a second.  With the vulnerability of a motorcyclist,
 the possibility of fatal impact is much greater because they have less protection.  Spend all you want on the next generation of super helmet but it can't guaranty you life or no brain damage if you crash going too fast.
 The thing that is more likely to keep you alive is what you do with your brain before you crash.  Uses it.

[canuguzzi]

And the more and more drivers become dependent upon not having to look around, pay attention to braking and so on, the worse its going to get. That in between time before completely autonomous cars are in the market will see accident rates go up as drivers rely on not totally bakes systems.

As motorcyclists, we may find ourselves on the receiving end.

[Sasquatch Jim]

  We're going to need some junkyard dog lawyers.

[Aaron D.]

I thought Earnhardt died of cervical fracture, as did Gonzalo Rodriguez in CART and a few others. The HANS device is saving a lot of car drivers but I can't imagine that getting into the motorcycle world.

[Arizona Wayne]

  The short distance and time duration from the brain moving at speed to not moving at all is why there are so many dead
  motorcyclist brains after crashes.  No matter what you wear, if the trauma from speed to stop is great enough, you will be dead.  This is why I have never wanted to spend more money on ludicrous amounts of horsepower in my mounts.
 If the power is there, it WILL be used from time to time.  No motorcycle needs more than 60 horsepower to double most speed limits and accelerate at a rate close to the skill limits of all but experienced racers.   Particularly when you enter into the equation, other foolish and inattentive drivers.
 Dale earnhardt the famous stock car driver was wearing all the latest high tech safety gear ever made.  He suffered no broken bones and no exterior injuries yet he was dead the instant his car stopped.  Human cells most especially brain cells never evolved to go from 190 MPH to all stop in a fraction of a second.  With the vulnerability of a motorcyclist,
 the possibility of fatal impact is much greater because they have less protection.  Spend all you want on the next generation of super helmet but it can't guaranty you life or no brain damage if you crash going too fast.
 The thing that is more likely to keep you alive is what you do with your brain before you crash.  Uses it.

    It's amazing how many times this subject comes up like no one here remembers what they read before on this subject.   Even Bell helmets admits if you hit a solid object w/a helmet on at 25 mph or faster you brain is toast.  Our brains are suspended in a liquid solution like an egg yoke in a shell(skull).  It takes very little to shut it down, which shuts down all your body functions. Some of us are more sensitive to sudden impact than others.  A MC helmet helps protect your brain some but that is all, no matter how much $ you pay for it.

[Dean Rose]

Speed doesn't kill, stopping does.


Dean

[Arizona Wayne]

Speed doesn't kill, stopping does.


Dean

Make that sudden stopping.