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Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« on: January 12, 2016, 04:36:09 PM »
In the California Valley the only thing that stops be from riding is rain.  I've done enough wet riding and that's what the car is for  My morning commutes are 35+ degrees and my poor little red Griso never gets out of the cold weather fast idle.  I'm to cheap to purchase a bypass valve and I'd have the personal thermostat that when my hands warm up to remove the cover (think temps  over 50 degrees).

My question for the board is has anyone ever made an oil cooler block?  I'm thinking of getting creative and blocking off the outflow from the oil cooler mainly because it's easy to pull of the cover and there should be enough room to put a sheet of something under the cover

I don't want to use one of those "V" slotted covers that MG Cycle sells because Avere le braccine corte.

I wonder if I just put a patch of leather behind the grill rather than fussing with metal or wood
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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2016, 04:46:03 PM »
what model Griso? 1100 or 1200?

It shouldn't be idling high, idle speed is hard coded into the ECU and controlled by the stepper. once the engine has been running for a couple of minutes it will leave the cold start sequence.

To me it sounds like one of two problems. Poor tuning and set-up and possibly the throttle stop screw has been messed with or dirty throttle bodies.

Has it got any add-ons or tuning *widgets* on it? Where has it been serviced? Do they know what they're doing?

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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2016, 05:19:01 PM »
As Pete says, possible tuning issue as warm up period is only 100 seconds.

Anyhoo, with regard to oil cooler, I just jam a piece of cardboard into the front of the cooler and maybe block 3/4 of it. If it should happen to fly out, no big loss.

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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2016, 05:25:39 PM »
If it is an 1100, it might already have a thermostat in the sump spacer.
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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2016, 06:35:38 PM »
Yup, saw in another post its an 1100 so it has a thermostat.

its also had a refreshed ECU. if it was one from You Know Who all it probably has had done s a lot more fuel flung at it and the lambda turned off and as you've found out Mark, at least on the 12's, high idle is almost always to do with too much fuel.

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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 06:58:52 PM »
Yep. A TPS reset might be worth trying to. TPS not right will cause high idle as well.

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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2016, 08:51:58 AM »
You mean one of these? I've got a pic of it on the bike somewhere, I'll try and find it later.




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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2016, 11:29:09 AM »
It's a G11 that's been re-flashed.  I don't have a problem with high-idle when it's warm.  Above 75 or so it doesn't even get into high idle when started. 

If I'm sitting at a looooong light when it's cold think California long the Griso will drop down to normal idle.  I figured the stepper motor wouldn't let it out of fast idle because it was to cold sub-40's.  After a run at speed when it's 40 degrees or so, it's back to fast-idle at the next stoplight.  this is California - to many stoplights

Now on the way home when it warms up to the low 50's it idle's fine.

I do have the gear to reset the TPS but this Griso doesn't seem to need it.  I've checked a number of times and it's within tolerances

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Anyhoo, with regard to oil cooler, I just jam a piece of cardboard into the front of the cooler and maybe block 3/4 of it. If it should happen to fly out, no big loss.
  Your right and I might go to all the trouble of painting it black.

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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2016, 01:03:54 PM »
Take the throttle bodies off and give them a thorough cleaning. The 1100's more so than the 1200's have a habit of pushing oil out and the TB's and stepper get grubby and gummed up.

My own suspicion though is it's probably related to the reflash if it's from where I'm thinking it is. The products from that source were, at least in the early days, ridiculously crude. Basically the electronic equivalent of riding around with the choke pulled on on a bike that uses carburettors.

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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2016, 01:38:36 PM »
You mean one of these? I've got a pic of it on the bike somewhere, I'll try and find it later.






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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2016, 02:38:28 PM »
Take the throttle bodies off and give them a thorough cleaning. The 1100's more so than the 1200's have a habit of pushing oil out and the TB's and stepper get grubby and gummed up.         Pete   

Right!  Next chore!  I've sprayed the throttle bodies but a 41,000+ miles and 9 years old it's probably time to pull them and give them a thorough cleaning.  Well I still have to change the alternator belt so I'll do it them together maybe in February.

This next weeks chore is to pull the CARC then grease the spline while replacing the rear tire and maybe the rear pads.

Right now I'm waiting on front brake rotors because they are a little loose, kind of like this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W667-CfZ8p8
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1/2 a V50 III (with my son)
V65 SP - Finished but the Dyna died so it's non-op'd
'75 850T with sidecar - a new project and adventure

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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2016, 06:04:54 PM »
If you haven't done them yet swingarm bearings and linkage bearings would be a good idea as well.

Pete

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Re: Oil Cooler Cover for Cold Weather - Griso
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2016, 07:09:38 PM »
My question for the board is has anyone ever made an oil cooler block?

How about this one: http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4667
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