V7 Conversion. Advice needed

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Hello Everyone,
I've owned a Stelvio for the last 4 years; took me successfully from London to Mongolia and back with some side trips to the Baltics and the Balkans. Great bike - but I'm approaching 70 and don't have the strength & the stamina that I once had.
I decided to get a smaller bike; only a Guzzi would do so I bought a 2010 V7 Cafe for a very good price.
The project now is to convert it to an upright position so that I can do the miles in comfort and handle dirt roads and massive potholes :)
Before anyone says anything .. yes I could have bought a Stone or whatever but I didn't as this bike came with a spare tank, cafe set plus dual seat and original exhaust plus the Racer panels. This means I can have two bikes with different paint jobs and styles for the price of one. Well more or less :)
So.. some advice that I need.
1. I want a sit up position like the Stelvio. Which bars and risers would you recommend?
2. A good screen that I can remove quickly
3. Tyres - I'd like Conti TKC 80 or 70 (had both on Stelvio  - superb) but I don't think they do the sizes so maybe Heidenau? Have to be 60-70 to  40-30  off road use.
4. Electrics - I run electric jacket & pants and phone is permanently charging as I use it as GPS. Will also want to run some small auxiliary lights mounted to a crash bar and maybe put HID into headlight. Will this be too much draw on the battery? It was ok on Stelvio, but the V7?
5. Seat: the overall concept is long distance retro scrambler.. without the scrambler pipes :) I'll be recovering the dual seat so I'll change the foam. I have memory foam implants on the stelvio and it works well - has anyone had experience with get inserts for long distance usage?
That will do for now.. but there will be more :)
Thanks in advance :)
Best & Cordially,
Derek

[jas67]

I've got these in both my V7's, they work very well, and consume 20 Watts on low, and 25 Watts on high, giving you back 30 Watts for your heated gear or aux lighting.

http://stores.advmonster.com/h4-mesh-monster-led-headlight/

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I've got these in both my V7's, they work very well, and consume 20 Watts on low, and 25 Watts on high, giving you back 30 Watts for your heated gear or aux lighting.

http://stores.advmonster.com/h4-mesh-monster-led-headlight/

Interesting Jas67 Haven't see this before. What exactly do they do?

[pyoungbl]

My '12 V7 is supposed to put out 350 watts of electrical power, I'm guessing your Classic is similar but it might be less.  Since I like to run electric gear too I was concerned about the draw from my GPS (minimal) and the heated gear since the electric fuel pump and ECU suck up quite a bit of electrons.  Using a very simple ammeter (orange/green/red) I found that the bike was discharging at idle after startup and often at idle after running...with no extra drain.  After about 3.5K rpm there was enough charge to run everything just fine.  I'd recommend hooking up a meter after you get all your stuff installed to see exactly what it takes to avoid a discharge situation.  Putting around in the back woods at slow speed with all your gear on might leave you stranded.  Our friend Leafman60 had that problem with a 650 BMW.

My Stelvio has 550 watts of power so there is lots to spare.

Peter Y.

[malik]

1. Try the stock V7 bars - you may not need risers. Otherwise, I'd suggest the Laverda-style multi-adjustable bars from Raask - google those - the combination of adjustments is almost unlimited & once you find your most comfortable angles, you could, if wanted, get something else to emulate that.

2. The Guzzi screen has solid brackets, but are not clip-on, clip-off. Not a big job to remove, getting the angles right on re installation would come with practice.

3. No experience with off-road tyres, I don't do so much dirt.

4. The alternator on the Cafe Classic, like the Claasic, has a higher output than the single throttle body models, I believe, but on both I've had no trouble running heated liners, the phone charger, heated grips, Denali D2 LED driving lights, as well as using a portable LED searchlight while camping overnight. It should take whatever you can throw at it, but if you do add the HID, add up the likely draw, just in case it's marginal.

5. No experience with any other than the two common seats.

Good luck, and welcome to the club, you're up for lots of fun.

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My '12 V7 is supposed to put out 350 watts of electrical power, I'm guessing your Classic is similar but it might be less.  Since I like to run electric gear too I was concerned about the draw from my GPS (minimal) and the heated gear since the electric fuel pump and ECU suck up quite a bit of electrons.  Using a very simple ammeter (orange/green/red) I found that the bike was discharging at idle after startup and often at idle after running...with no extra drain.  After about 3.5K rpm there was enough charge to run everything just fine.  I'd recommend hooking up a meter after you get all your stuff installed to see exactly what it takes to avoid a discharge situation.  Putting around in the back woods at slow speed with all your gear on might leave you stranded.  Our friend Leafman60 had that problem with a 650 BMW.

My Stelvio has 550 watts of power so there is lots to spare.

Peter Y.

Explicit & specific Peter - perfect, thank you, will check with a meter in the morning :)

Best

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1. Try the stock V7 bars - you may not need risers. Otherwise, I'd suggest the Laverda-style multi-adjustable bars from Raask - google those - the combination of adjustments is almost unlimited & once you find your most comfortable angles, you could, if wanted, get something else to emulate that.

2. The Guzzi screen has solid brackets, but are not clip-on, clip-off. Not a big job to remove, getting the angles right on re installation would come with practice.

3. No experience with off-road tyres, I don't do so much dirt.

4. The alternator on the Cafe Classic, like the Claasic, has a higher output than the single throttle body models, I believe, but on both I've had no trouble running heated liners, the phone charger, heated grips, Denali D2 LED driving lights, as well as using a portable LED searchlight while camping overnight. It should take whatever you can throw at it, but if you do add the HID, add up the likely draw, just in case it's marginal.

5. No experience with any other than the two common seats.

Good luck, and welcome to the club, you're up for lots of fun.

The Raask sound brilliant Malik.. I'll check them out.
I'll look at the OEM kit but I'll also have a look into other aftermarket options. The research is half the fun :) :) Electrical advisory is great.. and thank you very much for the welcome :)

[jas67]

Interesting Jas67 Haven't see this before. What exactly do they do?

LED H4 (bulb) replacement.

More light from less power, even better than HID.

[fossil]

For the seats there are at least two interesting alternatives: first, Corbin (expensive here in Europe), and second, Bagster. They modify the original seat. You can choose from a lot of options. Try to contact the retailer in the UK:

TROPHY UK LTD
BRIDGE STREET BAGSTER TOWERS
LL22 7HA ABERGELE
United Kingdom
chrissysamuels@holdingtrophy.eu
+441745823333

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For the seats there are at least two interesting alternatives: first, Corbin (expensive here in Europe), and second, Bagster. They modify the original seat. You can choose from a lot of options. Try to contact the retailer in the UK:

TROPHY UK LTD
BRIDGE STREET BAGSTER TOWERS
LL22 7HA ABERGELE
United Kingdom
chrissysamuels@holdingtrophy.eu
+441745823333

Thank you Torsten.. I'll check it out :)

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LED H4 (bulb) replacement.

More light from less power, even better than HID.

Thank you ! :)