I'm Jonesing for a ride on the v9...Under 10K!!!$$$

[jas67]

The V9 is a different concept and will be a platform for customizing and individualizing.

Moto Guzzi plans to have various kits and lots of accessories for this model so you can make it unique and to your liking.

^ I heard that in an Italian commercial on YouTube.

Acce$$ories, Acce$$ories, Acce$$ories.

Much like they've done with the accessory catalog for the V7.

It works for HD, why not for Guzzi?

[Kev m]

It works for HD, why not for Guzzi?

Because Guzzi owners are a bunch of penny-pinching, old grumpy bastards?

[tazio]

Because Guzzi owners are a bunch of penny-pinching, old grumpy bastards?

Busted again!

[bpreynolds]

Because Guzzi owners are a bunch of penny-pinching, old grumpy bastards?

  I'd fire off a long and hateful response to this but my dial up internet is slow today and I'm in a generally dreadful mood.
 

[LowRyter]

They're built on the same frame.  The big difference is the change in seating position.  The V9 Roamer/Bobber foot pegs are moved forward and down from what you see in the V7.  V9 pegs are forward about where they are on the Nevadas, and downward because of the new lower frame rails.  The V9s have a much more relaxed seating position than a V7.

So, though the bike is "the same", the detail changes could make it more comfortable for taller riders, and riders with knee problems who don't get along with the V7's tight seat/peg clearance.

so perhaps the pegs and controls from a V7 could make for a sporty ride?

[rocker59]

so perhaps the pegs and controls from a V7 could make for a sporty ride?

You'd have to change the lower frame rails, which include the muffler hangers on the V9.

I'm sure it's all bolt-on, but not just a set of pegs.  I expect lower frame rail, rearsets, and fabricated muffler hangers.

The exhaust is pretty low on the Roamer and Bobber, and would probably be a ground clearance issue, once you raised the pegs.  So, you might need a new exhaust.

It would probably just be better to wait for the V9 Stone/V9 Special/V9 Racer coming next year... 

[JeffOlson]

It would probably just be better to wait for the V9 Stone/V9 Special/V9 Racer coming next year...

I'm looking forward to that! 

[Dogwalker]

Test of V9 Roamer and Bobber on the Italian magazine "Motociclismo", interviews with Marco Lambri (Centro Stile Gruppo Piaggio Director) and Leo Mercanti (Marketing Director Gruppo Piaggio).
In syntesis.
"The Griso will not die" (literal).
There will be a new Stelvio (in a not specified future), different from the current one and from the competitors in the segment.
Moto Guzzi consider the V7 to be of a smaller displacement than the V9 (and the new Street Twin) to be a value (so, expect an Euro-4 750 for now. They'll make a V7 850 only if the Street Twin will erase the V7 from the market).

[rocker59]

"The Griso will not die" (literal).

I'd like to know more about what's in store for GRiSO.  1400cc ?  New bodywork ?  Hmmm...

There will be a new Stelvio (in a not specified future), different from the current one and from the competitors in the segment.

Good deal!  This should be interesting.

Moto Guzzi consider the V7 to be of a smaller displacement than the V9 (and the new Street Twin) to be a value (so, expect an Euro-4 750 for now. They'll make a V7 850 only if the Street Twin will erase the V7 from the market).

I've noticed in some of the magazine articles that they've mentioned V7 will be Euro-4 compliant.  We've all been expecting the V9 engine to migrate into the V7 line, but maybe Guzzi does see value in maintaining the 750 bikes for some markets.

I will be curious to see what is brought to The US market.

[Kev m]

Test of V9 Roamer and Bobber on the Italian magazine "Motociclismo", interviews with Marco Lambri (Centro Stile Gruppo Piaggio Director) and Leo Mercanti (Marketing Director Gruppo Piaggio).
In syntesis.
"The Griso will not die" (literal).
There will be a new Stelvio (in a not specified future), different from the current one and from the competitors in the segment.
Moto Guzzi consider the V7 to be of a smaller displacement than the V9 (and the new Street Twin) to be a value (so, expect an Euro-4 750 for now. They'll make a V7 850 only if the Street Twin will erase the V7 from the market).

Very interesting.

So either EU-4 compliant CARC 1200's and Heron head 750's

OR

Some possible motor revisions.

I wonder if they would switch the Heron head 750 to a Hemi to make emissions compliance easier?

And changes would the 8V CARC need?


Hmmmm

[DaSwami]

Toldya!  (Maybe)

[Kev m]

Toldya!  (Maybe)

Ha ha, guess we'll see...

[kevdog3019]

I'll believe it when I see it.  Doesn't make much sense here in the States to me.  There is not a delineation (advantage) that a 750 brings vs. the 850.  The rest is a few ponies...

[Cam3512]

I'll believe it when I see it.  Doesn't make much sense here in the States to me.  There is not a delineation (advantage) that a 750 brings vs. the 850.  The rest is a few ponies...

"Moto Guzzi, not making sense since 1921"

[Chuck in Indiana]

"Moto Guzzi, not making sense since 1921"

Well, there ya have it. If they had any sense, they would have brought out the Ippo in 97, and jumped into a commanding lead in the mid sized market. <shrug>

[canuguzzi]

Much like they've done with the accessory catalog for the V7.

It works for HD, why not for Guzzi?

Because HD makes more money selling key fobs than Moto Guzzi makes selling bikes.

[jas67]

So either EU-4 compliant CARC 1200's and Heron head 750's ....
OR ....
Some possible motor revisions....

I would predict a 750cc version of the new 850cc for tiered license market, and an 850cc V7 family for North America, and other markets without Tiered licensing.   It cost $0 more to build the 850cc than a 750cc version of the same motor, and it would be much better positioned against the Street Twin.

[LowRyter]

http://ridermagazine.com/2016/03/24/2017-moto-guzzi-v9-roamer-and-v9-bobber-first-ride-review/

[kevdog3019]

I would predict a 750cc version of the new 850cc for tiered license market, and an 850cc V7 family for North America, and other markets without Tiered licensing.   It cost $0 more to build the 850cc than a 750cc version of the same motor, and it would be much better positioned against the Street Twin.

My thinking too. If they keep the 750 it's for a special need. 

[Lcarlson]

If Guzzi has made the V7 Euro 4 compliant, the most efficient path would simply be to continue selling it as their tiered licensing starter bike in Europe. No changes needed, and anybody else who wants to buy it (they sell well) can do so. They can market the V9s as a separate niche, which seems to be the way they're already going.