incredible stupid road rage bike vs cage

[oldbike54]

Geess weren't just about run over on the way back from the Okie campout this year?   And how about that time you and your buddy buddy were harassed to the point that your partner drew a gun?

I just don't think that is very civilized.

 Those things happen everywhere , and in my almost 48 years of riding have been rare . My objection was to the idea that somehow we are more violent in the South , or North , or East than all of those completely pacific folks in Arizona .

 Dusty

[LowRyter]

Dusty, we aren't in the South, we're in Okla.

wait. you're in Little Dixie.  OK, you live in the South.  I live in Okla.   

[oldbike54]

Dusty, we aren't in the South, we're in Okla.

wait. you're in Little Dixie.  OK, you live in the South.  I live in Okla.   

 Oh in my mind this isn't Southern but Southwestern  Just that to most folks Oklahoma is Southern , like Texas . Of course everyone knows we are nothing like those crazies down there  Hey Rocker , you live in the South and motorbike commute most days , any of those crazy Arkies shoot at you lately ?

 Dusty

[twowings]

Oklahoma is just Texas Lite...and 3.2%! 

[Arizona Wayne]

We had more close calls riding thru Lousiana.  In Georgia I passed a car on a 2 lane road w/my car and the car driver got so pissed off he passed me back, and pulled over at first opportunity and wanted us to have a fist fight over it.    He was a redhead.  In Florida you literally didn't know what some of the drivers were going to do/go next.    The most aggressive drivers(men or  women) I've ever seen are around Salt Lake City, Utah.

[Arizona Wayne]

Maybe, but in my case, I don't want to be between two lines of cager traffic, to much restriction of my personal comfort zone.  I've seen riders have doors swung open on them, and cagers sort of resent you "getting too close" even if no harm done, especially if they are a rich snob with a set of shiny wheels.  I want SPACE when I ride, not show off how clever we are by knifing through stalled traffic. 

I consider filtering a handy emergency maneuver, but to each their own.

I suspect you don't live in the USA and some of the videos you presented here were not incidents in the USA.  My lane splitting opinion/experience is all in the USA, nowhere else.

[rocker59]

Dusty, we aren't in the South, we're in Okla.

wait. you're in Little Dixie.  OK, you live in the South.  I live in Okla.   

Oh in my mind this isn't Southern but Southwestern  Just that to most folks Oklahoma is Southern , like Texas . Of course everyone knows we are nothing like those crazies down there  Hey Rocker , you live in the South and motorbike commute most days , any of those crazy Arkies shoot at you lately ?

 Dusty

I'd say that Oklahoma Territory isn't Southern, but Indian Territory is...



While I've had one or two people try to block a pass I was making while riding a motorcycle in Arkansas, I've never had a gun pulled on me in almost 50 years of living here.  This, despite just about everyone in Arkansas owning/possessing them.

The only time I thought a road-rager was going to pull a gun on me was in Woodbridge Virginia (suburban DC), and I was in an SUV, not on a motorcycle...   

Maybe it's just my style, but I haven't had too many incidents on my motorcycle where someone got pissed off enough to escalate. 

[LowRyter]

It's a pretty low bar if we're talking about having experienced being drawn on first hand compared to dangerous road rage. 

I am a lot more concerned that some predisposed to road rage in the might be armed.  And I think the likelihood is greater now that it was in the past. 

[rocker59]

It's a pretty low bar if we're talking about having experienced being drawn on first hand compared to dangerous road rage. 

I am a lot more concerned that some predisposed to road rage in the might be armed.  And I think the likelihood is greater now that it was in the past.

I'm not sure I follow you...  I've never been "drawn on" and have experienced only a few random road rage incidents in 35 years of driving/riding.  The ones I remember most happened in 1999, 2003, 2006.  Three of the four I'm thinking of were when I was in an auto.  Not on a motorcycle.  Don't kid yourself about fewer people being armed in the past.  And life being safer in the past.  That's your rose-colored glasses filtering your memories of "how it used to be".

[drw916]

You're all Southeasterners to me.

[atavar]

Personally, part of the reason I don't see much of this is that if I see a rage situation developing I try not to be there any more.  I either stop in a public place or I go over the horizon.  Of course having the snout of a .45 poking out from under my jacket tends to help too. 

[davedel44]

I stand by what I said and have never seen anything like that happen on the West coast, even in L.A, Seattle, or San Fran., but you proved your point in other parts of the country.

Taxi cabs doing it..........is that in NYC?  If you do that on the West coast the car driver is automatically at fault and guilty.  Don't know what the laws are back east but I have never ridden there and after seeing this have no desire to.

I've been told if you split lanes in the South(ridden there) you might get shot in the back.  I believe it.   When riding in the South we had more close calls than anywhere else by far.  If I lived there I wouldn't ride.

It seems the drivers out West are more civilized.

Any further South and I'd be in the Gulf of Mexico!

I ride as often as I can.

I do wear an armored jacket and a helmet but I don't think either will stop a bullet.

Guess I am taking my life in my hands almost daily.

Dave
Galveston

[Arizona Wayne]

Only time I've had a gun pulled on me was unwittingly driving over(freeway)  L.A. during the Watts Riot in the `70's..  A Cop pulls me over..........I get out of my car(not knowing you aren't supposed to do that) and suddenly I find myself pointing down the barrel of his pistol while he's standing behind his door!     I'll never do THAT again!  I was driving my Volvo P-1800 to an autocross scheduled @ USC campus(right next to Watts).  Wasn't familiar with the L.A. area at all.

[davedel44]

We had more close calls riding thru Lousiana.  In Georgia I passed a car on a 2 lane road w/my car and the car driver got so pissed off he passed me back, and pulled over at first opportunity and wanted us to have a fist fight over it.    He was a redhead.  In Florida you literally didn't know what some of the drivers were going to do/go next.    The most aggressive drivers(men or  women) I've ever seen are around Salt Lake City, Utah.

Darn and I'm going to Lousiana Thursday!

Hope I survive to make it to Cedar Vale.

Dave
Galveston

[Arizona Wayne]

Darn and I'm going to Lousiana Thursday!

Hope I survive to make it to Cedar Vale.

Dave
Galveston

I've asked the turnip farmer about this and he says it's because car/truck drivers thereabouts know if there's an accident you're going to get hurt, not them. 


1 of our incidents was on our Convert. hack where 2 freeways meld together.   We're in the left lane of our highway and this gravel trailer rig coming from the freeway integrating into our freeway on our right can plainly see us but still comes over.........pushes us off to the shoulder of our lane and takes our spot!!     There was no reason for him to do that other than spite.

[oldbike54]

Darn and I'm going to Lousiana Thursday!

Hope I survive to make it to Cedar Vale.

Dave
Galveston

 Cedar Vale , now there is a dangerous place to ride a motorcycle , or hell , even walk down the street . You are always running the risk of having a door opened... by a teenager as you enter the cafe or grocery store , or having the mayor insisting that  ... you store a non-functioning motorbike in her garage . Dang place , the locals don't understand how to act at all .

 Dusty