Needing a measurment - Clutch Cable, GBX end adjuster LM 1000

[Old Jock]

Sorry I've pestered you good folk over the years with odd requests for various measurements

I'm looking for the length, diameter would be useful too, of the cable adjuster at the Gbx end of the cable. This is so I can see if I can purchase one without having to buy a cable that would be of no use to me whatsoever apart from the adjuster.

I converted the bike to a hydraulic clutch a while back and I'm running an ISR master cylinder, unfortunately the smaller size offered just did not have enough puff to do the job and the larger which I have on now makes the clutch feel stiff and wooden or lacking feel. The hydraulic setup also pushes continually on the arm that actuates the pushrod, which although up until now has not been a problem, makes me nervous, especially as I'm running a RAM clutch. 

So I'm going back to cable but using an ISR lever to match the brakes, this uses a smaller nipple than standard, so I plan to make a custom cable for it. The other reason for going custom is the bike is a Sfida so although I can make the standard Guzzi cable work its not ideal length wise and as I have the tools for making a cable, it should not be too much of a big deal to make a special.

Here is a rather blurred picture of the adjuster I'm referring to

[Old Jock]

Bump!!!

Anybody?

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Sorry, meant to do this yesterday and forgot. The threaded portion is M9-1.25. Overall length is 50.35 mm, the threaded portion is ~ 39 mm long. On this one, the hex portion is 10 mm, but on some others it's 11 mm.

[Old Jock]

Charlie

Your time and effort are gratefully appreciated.

Many Many thanks

Its going to be difficult to procure it for sure M9................. why for crying out loud............... ....because the can I guess

Looks like I might need to buy that cable after all

John

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Charlie

Your time and effort are gratefully appreciated.

Many Many thanks

Its going to be difficult to procure it for sure M9................. why for crying out loud............... ....because the can I guess

Looks like I might need to buy that cable after all

John

Shouldn't be that difficult for a machinist to make.

Or I can cut one off of an old cable and send it to you or for that matter send you a complete old cable . Lots of old, frayed, otherwise junk cables laying around.

[Old Jock]

Charlie

Your generosity is very much appreciated I still have not forgotten when you shipped me the head banjo oil feeds that I had lost for almost nothing

I'm in the UK, but PM to let me know how much for say 6 of the adjusters off broken cables if you have them lying around as it solves a problem for me. That's if its not too much trouble for you, as the time mailing it will be less than anything you could possibly make on it, I fully understand.

I have a local friendly machinist but after having put him through the mill making me caliper carrier brackets which he had to make twice, mea culpa, I want to give him some cooling off time before I go near him again 

John

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

I'll see if I can round up 6, might not be able to come up with that many. They won't be "pretty" - would need to be replated or painted to look presentable. If I ship First Class Mail International, it shouldn't cost much.

Other ideas:

Barnett makes Guzzi clutch cables and the adjusters are nicely machined out of stainless steel. Maybe they'd sell just a few of the adjusters?
http://www.barnettclutches.com/moto-guzzi.html
I'd recommend contacting Joe Snell in the custom cable dept. if you're interested.

Flanders also sells an M9-1.25 adjuster of the correct length, however it is a "reverse" adjuster - the cable goes into the threaded end, not the hex end. Made of aluminum, come in bags of 10.
http://www.flandersco.com/action.lasso?-search&-database=_Flan_Levers.fp5&-layout=Cables1&-Format=FlanCableResults.html&-Error=FlanCableError.html&-Operator=Contains&Type=Adjuster&Catagory=CablePart

[Old Jock]

Thanks Again Charlie

I've ordered a cable from Stein Dinse in Germany as they are cheap and I won't have lost too much if it doesn't work out.

If it doesn't though at least I'll be able to use it to get a nice precise size.

The bike is a Magni Sfida so although the Guzzi cables work from memory they are usually a bit on the long side and need to be routed to get rid of the extra length, which is a bit of a PIA

If you don't mind hang off until I contact Joe Snell you have been very generous with your knowledge and contacts

I really do like the idea of getting my hands on some SS adjusters that sounds ideally what I'm after.

I'll contact Joe for sure and I'll also enquire about getting them to make me a couple of custom cables, Venhill in the UK could do the same for me I suppose, but lets see how it works out with Barnett

I really can't thanks you enough for taking the time

John

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

I really can't thanks you enough for taking the time

Happy to help. 

[jacksonracingcomau]

Long time since I saw genuine orig cable but all I've used for last 30 + years are all 8x 1.25 adjusters --wherever cable came from, UK, Germany or Italy
When I make myself I use adjusters from Venhill (UK)
They also use 8 x 1.25 on their Guzzi cables but prob have M9 too, bit closer to home, Jock, but not SS AFAIK, worth asking

Thread is a bit academic as early cover is not threaded-- could use 5/16" adjuster with no problem
From Venhill hex on adjuster is 10mm  , nuts are 13mm

I think the 9 x 1.25 may be for late models with thread in gearbox cover but I thought M10, even with these I just use 8 x 1,25 & two nuts , one either side of cover, as in pic, no probs.

[Old Jock]

Many Thanks Jackson Racing for the info

You are of course right and its me doing my usual and overthinking everything and over exploring all the avenues............ ................... ...I'll probably end up with about 6 cables by the time I order from SD, Venhill and Barnetts

I'll post up results, I loathe guys who ask questions, others chip in real gems to help out then OP just goes "Off Grid"

John

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

I think the 9 x 1.25 may be for late models with thread in gearbox cover but I thought M10, even with these I just use 8 x 1,25 & two nuts , one either side of cover, as in pic, no probs.

None of the many cables I have on hand are for late models Guzzis, unless you consider 1978 late model. All of them have an M9 adjuster. Some are original Guzzi, the rest aftermarket. <shrug>

[guzzista]

I have a few  clutch adjusters  in my cable kit , including Flanders, Guzzi and Bevel Ducati. If you dont get it sorted out with the Stein Dinse cable, let me know.

[Old Jock]

I have a few  clutch adjusters  in my cable kit , including Flanders, Guzzi and Bevel Ducati. If you dont get it sorted out with the Stein Dinse cable, let me know.

Many Thanks for the kind offer its appreciated and if I hit a wall I surely will

God I love this forum

[jacksonracingcomau]

Many Thanks for the kind offer its appreciated and if I hit a wall I surely will

God I love this forum

What I should've said yesterday is buy Featherlight clutch cable kit from Venhill, you can then make it to correct length for Magni, comes with all you need & is best quality-- Teflon liner and SS wire. Adjuster is included in kit as well as ferrules / nipples / rubber bits  etc,
But you need to silver solder SS

[Old Jock]

So for the moment I got a cable from Stein Dinse and clipped one end and soldered on a new trumpet and nipple to suit.

Cable outer is a bit short, so I had to be imaginative with the routing and it runs closer to the engine than I'd like.

Later I'll take off the cable and measure it up and get Venhill to make me some Featherlights as I'll know the lengths.

The lever is the ISR "extended pull" offering.

Works a treat bags more feel