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billmo
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Location: Green Bay, WI
Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 21, 2016, 07:41:07 AM »
Hello all. I'm new here and have recently purchased what I believe is an 850T. I don't know for sure because the vin tag is missing. Also the engine number is 21892. That's it. No stars and no VD # or anything. I've never seen an engine # like that and am wondering if the cases were replaced with new ones at some point. I will attempt to attach some photos. Any help would be much appreciated.
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fotoguzzi
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Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 21, 2016, 07:50:54 AM »
yep, looks like an 850T.. you have a lot of work to do...
and that is the common engine number from the era. they don't always match the frame number either, did you get a title? new vin plates can be had. I'd try Harpers.
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billmo
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Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 21, 2016, 08:36:22 AM »
I did get a title that matches the motor. Yes, it will be a large project. I did get boxes of parts with it but will still need to acquire some. So the engine number is normal? I've just never seen another one like it.
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Two Checks
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Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 21, 2016, 10:08:47 AM »
IIRC mt T had a VIN of 094440 and when I replaced the frame itwas 094360.
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Hahnda
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Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 21, 2016, 10:23:51 AM »
Looks like it could be a re-stamp.
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Matt Story
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Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 21, 2016, 11:04:44 AM »
Anecdotal evidence here. My 75 850t manfactured in oct 74 has matching five digit numbers (no letters) on engine and frame. 940XX. Bought it new from the dealer in '91
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Turin
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Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 21, 2016, 12:43:27 PM »
I've got a later 850-T with filter. Engine numbers and frame numbers match the tag on the frame. Engine number is C*097243*. Also after the DGM on the frame, I have #'s stamped DGM12xx OM
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Turin
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Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 21, 2016, 12:46:26 PM »
BTW are you missing parts? I have extra gas tanks. I can't use.
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billmo
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Location: Green Bay, WI
Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 24, 2016, 07:55:36 PM »
The title says its a 1971. Maybe it is an Ambassador engine? The bike came with the tank in the photo but it doesn't seem to fit properly. The plot thickens. Looks like it could be a bitsa.
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Hahnda
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Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 24, 2016, 08:39:36 PM »
Its not an Ambassador engine.
My guess is that someone had a title for an Ambassador, ground the numbers off the 850T engine and put the Ambo numbers on there.
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Turin
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Location: Chandler, Arizona
Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 24, 2016, 08:56:53 PM »
That tank is correct for an 850-T/T-3, as is the frame. Nothing you have there dates back to 1971. Nothing is ambassador. You might have the wrong title.
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Don G
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Re: Help identifying engine vin on 850T
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May 25, 2016, 01:26:47 PM »
Could it be a Waffle case 71-72 Ambo engine I wonder? DonG
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