V85 - wet weight?

[Murray]

Snarky vapor ware comments aside, we've been told that they built it fully intending to bring it to market by this time next year. Time will tell the truth of that statement, but the source is a long proven one around here so I don't get the skepticism.

Because the number of times Guzzi have delivered a concept bike on time and on spec can be counted on one hand thats if they actually deliver it and they've got form for not delivering it at all. Ippogriffo 750, MGS-01 Series, the V12 LM, V12 Strada and V12X never amounted to anything.
The original V11 sport was two years after initially promised the Cali 1400 was two or three years between concept and actual bikes on the show room. For the NTX they still need to build the "new" motor i.e. not the one in the concept bike.

Basically there is a reoccurring pattern and with the accountants at piaggio in charge there is no reason to expect anything else.

[Kev m]

Because the number of times Guzzi have delivered a concept bike on time and on spec can be counted on one hand thats if they actually deliver it and they've got form for not delivering it at all. Ippogriffo 750, MGS-01 Series, the V12 LM, V12 Strada and V12X never amounted to anything.

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Basically there is a reoccurring pattern and with the accountants at piaggio in charge there is no reason to expect anything else.

Except the source that is telling us about this one never told us about any of those.

Conversely he's been pretty much 100% accurate in the 10 years or so I've been posting here.

And as for the latter snipped stuff, I'm not arguing over time line from concept to product, just what actually will make it to product or not.

I've currently got no reason to disbelieve our source.

[Attackpug]

504 lbs

[JeffOlson]

If the V85 is truly an enduro bike, as Moto Guzzi says it is, then it had better have a relatively light weight!

“A meeting point between technology and modern features to define the first Classic Enduro dedicated to tourism”: http://discoverv85.motoguzzi.com/en/

[Bonaventure]

Register my guess @ 487 lbs (221 kg).

[JohninVT]

The bike has 540lbs written all over it.  A Honda Africa Twin weighs 535.  A KTM1290 weighs 550.  A Multistrada is 560 and the GSA is 573.  The Stelvio NTX is a whopping 598. 

Once you start building a frame and subframe that will handle two fat Americans and 100+lbs of luggage being pounded over rough terrain, it's difficult to get a large displacement ADV bike under 500lbs.  Especially one with shaft drive.  There is a reason the GSA, Super Tenere and NTX all appear in the top ten list of heaviest ADV bikes and part of it is their drivetrain.

There are bikes like the 650 Vstrom that come in under 500lbs but while I love the Wee as a solo ADV mount, 45ft/lbs doesn't really cut it when you're fully loaded for an extended trip, two-up and trying to pass someone in the mountains. 

I am definitely in the market for this bike.  I think it looks great and has all the features I want in a ADV style rig.  I would be gobsmacked if it was 525lbs wet, let alone anywhere near 500lbs.                 

[PeteS]

Both the Triumph and BMW 800s come in at under 500 lbs wet. With about 82 HP at the back wheel (94 at the crank)  it will handle two with luggage with ease. How many here travel on EVs or loops two up? Neither is close to 82 HP.

https://www.cycleworld.com/bmw-f800gs-vs-triumph-tiger-800xc-adventure-bike-comparison-test-review#page-12

What happened to all the glass half full guys? 

Pete

[Bonaventure]

The bike has 540lbs written all over it.  A Honda Africa Twin weighs 535.  A KTM1290 weighs 550.  A Multistrada is 560 and the GSA is 573.  The Stelvio NTX is a whopping 598. 

Once you start building a frame and subframe that will handle two fat Americans and 100+lbs of luggage being pounded over rough terrain, it's difficult to get a large displacement ADV bike under 500lbs.  Especially one with shaft drive.  There is a reason the GSA, Super Tenere and NTX all appear in the top ten list of heaviest ADV bikes and part of it is their drivetrain.

There are bikes like the 650 Vstrom that come in under 500lbs but while I love the Wee as a solo ADV mount, 45ft/lbs doesn't really cut it when you're fully loaded for an extended trip, two-up and trying to pass someone in the mountains. 

I am definitely in the market for this bike.  I think it looks great and has all the features I want in a ADV style rig.  I would be gobsmacked if it was 525lbs wet, let alone anywhere near 500lbs.               

Well the Ducati Multistrada has certainly gotten porky then, believe previous gens were right around 500 wet, and the "official" dry weight on their tech spec sheet was 467 lbs if I remember right, for the 2010-2014 models anyways.  Nearly a 100 lb weight gain for the newest model then is quite the increase.

[JohninVT]

Well the Ducati Multistrada has certainly gotten porky then, believe previous gens were right around 500 wet, and the "official" dry weight on their tech spec sheet was 467 lbs if I remember right, for the 2010-2014 models anyways.  Nearly a 100 lb weight gain for the newest model then is quite the increase.

Ducati is the most infamous liar in motorcycling regarding the weight of their bikes.  Their idea of "dry" sometimes means no fluids at all, no fork springs, no battery, no brake pads, etc.     

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/top-10-heaviest-adventure-bikes/

[blackcat]

“The bike has 540lbs written all over it.  A Honda Africa Twin weighs 535.  A KTM1290 weighs 550.  A Multistrada is 560 and the GSA is 573.  The Stelvio NTX is a whopping 598.”

And if the bags, brackets, crash bars and aux lights are removed from the Stelvio NTX, that 598 weight is closer or below the competition. Certainly lower than the GSA.

[Matteo]

Multistrada 950 is 453 dry.

[NC Steve]

The rumble amongst those in the know is a dry weight of 440 lbs.
If so, wet would be 480-something? Sounds about right, and what Guzzi would want.