New Dealer and Piaggio

[Kev m]

We're not that far apart on this. I just know quite a few guys that are comfortable with mechanical stuff but not so much the electronic witchcraft. (attempt at humor). And isn't a TPS reset a standard thing you do when servicing the valves? I thought it was listed on my CARCs and Breva 750 work list.

Another thing to consider is a lot of riders today are not as inclined to do their own maintenance as in years past. Some one with your knowledge and skill would eclipse me, as I would eclipse some guys that always have their car and bikes dealer serviced.  Those guys might never consider a brand that didn't have a dealer and service place within 100 miles.

You're right we're not far apart.

I think there have always been guys who will do their own work and others who won't. Yeah the latter need support.

But what I'm saying is that for the former is even easier today what l than it was a decade or two ago.

And no the TPS does not require a reset after a valve adjustment. As a matter of fact it should rarely be touched one of the only times it's reset on CARCs or Cali 1100's are when you sync TBs, and since there's no multiple throttle bodies on the latest bikes that's two fewer things to worry about.

And that's what I'm saying, they're even easier to service yourself now.

[Darren Williams]

The single TB on newer models is a big plus in my eyes.  On my CARCs it seemed the TBs needed adjusting every time the valves were adjusted (it made a difference that was easy to feel) and hitting the Guzzidiag button to reset the TPS was something that was supposed to be done (it was usually a little off), IIRC. 

[Kev m]

The single TB on newer models is a big plus in my eyes.  On my CARCs it seemed the TBs needed adjusting every time the valves were adjusted (it made a difference that was easy to feel) and hitting the Guzzidiag button to reset the TPS was something that was supposed to be done (it was usually a little off), IIRC.

The throttle bodies really shouldn't require adjustment unless something has changed and linkage shouldn't change just between valve adjustments. Makes me wonder what was wrong.

[LowRyter]

Darren,  I have no idea why Kev has to hijack this thread.  The purpose of which was promoting a new dealer here in OKC.

The simple point I was making is that folks buying an $18k bike might want to be closer to the service dept than 200+ miles away.  Since many bikes now require a proprietary work station just to shut off a service light was more or less what I had in mind as an example. 

[Darren Williams]

The throttle bodies really shouldn't require adjustment unless something has changed and linkage shouldn't change just between valve adjustments. Makes me wonder what was wrong.

I figured this was a Guzzi thing. But mainly my experience is with the CARCs only (wife rode the little Breva and I honestly never gave it the fine tuning "love" I did my bikes). The other brands I own (UJM and Triumph) seem to be more of set it and forget it. Well, except for the R1200GS, but don't want to go into that. 

[Kev m]

I have no idea why I'm bitching about someone responding to one of my posts in thread.

Fixed it for ya.

[oldbike54]

 Reading here and on other sites one of the concerns prospective Guzzi owners have is a lack of dealers . While we try to reassure those folks that simply being a member in good standing with the family will take care of most problems , a few more dealers with a knowledgeable staff can't hurt . Seems maybe that is the point of this , right John ?

 Dusty

[LowRyter]

yeah, computers, CARCs, roller rockers, crossovers, not exactly parts to get at Ace Hardware.  And leaving the bike at a dealer 200 miles away, might be a little bit of an issue.

but....proceed.

[LowRyter]

Reading here and on other sites one of the concerns prospective Guzzi owners have is a lack of dealers . While we try to reassure those folks that simply being a member in good standing with the family will take care of most problems , a few more dealers with a knowledgeable staff can't hurt . Seems maybe that is the point of this , right John ?

 Dusty

uhm yes.

But we can't be sure until we hear from Kev on this point.   

[Kev m]

uhm yes.

But we can't be sure until we hear from Kev on this point.   

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