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Offline Nic in Western NYS

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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
« Reply #120 on: February 12, 2018, 04:48:11 AM »
Amazing accomplishment, especially landing 2 of 3 of the engines.  I'm so old that I get irritated at things like:  1. Having to clap at your company's rocket launch; 2. Declaring your company's rocket launch a success before all elements are completed; 3. Not being transparent regarding the parameters of the launch, so when you overshoot your target by a few million miles, it's unclear whether that was a failure due to a thrust miscalculation or malfunction or whether it was intended to 'go as far as it could.' 

The amount of marketing and self-promotion is nauseating and wouldn't 'fly' with the old NASA crowd that got Apollo 12 through a lightning strike ('try SCE to AUX') and Apollo 13 around the moon and back with half the service module blown to bits.  Rant over.

Great accomplishment!
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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
« Reply #121 on: February 12, 2018, 05:42:31 PM »
Nothing political intended.  It goes back to my previous comment about how nice it would be to have the money to send your car to mars, simply as ballast for your rocket.  Here's a man who's willing to take on a project that was heretofore simply too massive for a private enterprise to either finance or execute.  That's what I was saying.  If you want to make it political, it's on you.

Not being political, but Musk has benefited from over $4,000,000,000.00 in taxpayer funded assistance.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html
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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
« Reply #124 on: February 12, 2018, 07:13:25 PM »
   






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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
« Reply #125 on: February 12, 2018, 07:18:04 PM »
Not being political, but Musk has benefited from over $4,000,000,000.00 in taxpayer funded assistance.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html

And if you've kept up with the news, you'll learn that the NASA expects to sell off the International Space Station in the next few years. 

Bear in mind the big Spacex rocket should cost 1/10 the cost of NASA's design.  I have an equal preference of ZERO for the one I want to fly.  So dying in a rocket at 1/10 the cost I suppose is a bargain.   :shocked:
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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
« Reply #126 on: February 13, 2018, 01:13:42 AM »
And if you've kept up with the news, you'll learn that the NASA expects to sell off the International Space Station in the next few years. 

Bear in mind the big Spacex rocket should cost 1/10 the cost of NASA's design.  I have an equal preference of ZERO for the one I want to fly.  So dying in a rocket at 1/10 the cost I suppose is a bargain.   :shocked:
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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
« Reply #127 on: February 13, 2018, 06:25:45 AM »
Maybe, but Branson's is the only current private space program to suffer a fatality. if memory serves.

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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
« Reply #128 on: February 13, 2018, 09:41:59 AM »
It doesn't get old watching those 2 boosters land  :bow:

However, I have an important question

Its clear that SpaceX can control the boosters to get them to land

HOWEVER when they land on the drone ship, even with stabilisers the deck will still be pitching, heaving and rolling to some extent, so what stops the booster sliding over the side and/or simply falling over. :huh: :huh:

Naval choppers use a harpoon to hold them to the deck. Do these boosters have something similar?
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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
« Reply #129 on: February 13, 2018, 10:59:25 AM »
From tris:
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HOWEVER when they land on the drone ship, even with stabilisers the deck will still be pitching, heaving and rolling to some extent, so what stops the booster sliding over the side and/or simply falling over.

This may help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_spaceport_drone_ship
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Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
« Reply #130 on: February 14, 2018, 03:14:10 AM »
From tris:
This may help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_spaceport_drone_ship
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Aha - that helps John

Operation
A tug, Elsbeth III on the east coast, is used to bring the ASDS to its oceanic position. During rocket landing operations a support ship, Go Quest on the east coast, is typically standing by some distance away from the crewless ASDS.[35] Following landing, technicians and engineers will board the landing platform, and secure the rocket's landing legs to lock the vehicle in place for transport back to port.[3] The rocket stage is secured to the deck of the drone ship with steel hold downs welded on to the feet of the landing legs.[36] In June 2017, OCISLY started being deployed with a robot that drives under the rocket and grabs onto the hold-down clamps located on the outside of the Falcon 9's structure after landing.[37] Fans call the robot "Optimus Prime" or "Roomba," the latter of which has been turned into a backronym for "Remotely Operated Orientation and Mass Balance Adjustment."[38]


After posting, I had found a report that said after the booster had landed, a bunch of lads jumped on board the drone ship and welded the steel pads on the feet of the landing legs to the deck - i.e. good old fashioned sea fasteners!!!

Give the rest of the technology surrounding this endeavour, I'm glad to see that there's a robot called Optimus Prime roaming about the deck to grab the booster
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