Busting my own myth in Tasmania

[jacksonracingcomau]

Island in south pacific, clogwogs claimed it in 1650 or so but ours since 1805, not sure if they will ever try to take it back.
Anyway, today travelling north on the western explorerr from Carina I decided not to turn left for Athur River but right on new bitumen road. Heaven on stick, especially the ripple strip speed limiters with 6� gap in middle for motorcyclists, briliant.
But noticed a bit of a shimmy over surface change and buttoned off, the obvious question arose, stop and fix or ride on 35 odd miles to hotel ?
I have ridden much further with flat tyre solo and totally believed you will never break bead with modern tubeles type tyre but today 2 up I did.
Stopped and fitted a new tube, no great ag , not sure if youth could, be wise to teach em
Riding on broken bead is tricky, wether safety bead makes difference I do not know

[Guzzi Gal]

Good on you!  Sadly, I'm one of those "youths".

[Tusayan]

Given the difficulty of breaking the bead manually, on the side of the road, maybe riding until it breaks itself is the best way to go!

[Chuck in Indiana]

^^^^ good point. 

[jacksonracingcomau]

Given the difficulty of breaking the bead manually, on the side of the road, maybe riding until it breaks itself is the best way to go!

Exactly why I didn’t stop, had to remove centre stand when I fitted big rim, can prop on sidestand to get wheel out but my old way of using sidestand to break bead, leaning it over on centre stand now gone.
I have used other bikes sidestands before and intended to do that when convenient, this prob my new method but wouldn’t like it in city enviroment.
Real point of this post is tubed or tubeless, bead can break, if you rely on handpump or gas canistor you will never reseat bead, tubeless will not hold air.
We got about 15psi in it with hand pump taking turns, enought to ride but not to reseat bead.
Was still a bit wobbly getting here but not dangerous, will do it with compressor today.
Tubeless, not sure what I would or could do, hitch a ride in car with wheel I guess, would’ve been a long way if it hapened two hours earlier, prop still be there, look up weatern explorer, wesr tas

[Roebling3]

There's a U tube video showing the re-neck version of bead emplacement. Those experienced with potato cannons and the deft application of hair spray may shed some light here.  R3~

[malik]

Breaking the bead? I use the BeadBkr kit from BestRest Products, certainly eases that grief. The kit & a spare tube is always in the bottom of my luggage, and has come in handy - several times. A bicycle hand pump (more efficient ones are now available from push bike shops) works OK for the V7 and the Enfields, with some effort; their principal advantage being small size. If I had larger/fatter wheels than 130, I'd likely go electric.

For re-setting the bead, especially after all that hard yakka in the middle of nowhere, judicious but generous application of a lubricant to the bead & rim certainly helps. Access to a compressor certainly makes it easier. I've managed to have a compressor within walking distance in at least 4 cases of about 8 flats. The offending objects seem to cluster around towns, as often as not.

I've had limited experience with tubeless, but it seems like it would be more difficult - bigger tyres, harder walls, bead more critical. And in your case, Martin, with your mods, there are added complications. Congratulations on overcoming the special circumstances. Thankfully it's only an occasional problem.

Cousin Mal in the UK tells me he's just come across a new product - puts some kind of fibre inside the tyre, which is attracted somehow to the puncture point - worth investigating further.

In spite of that (you're likely to dine out on this story for years), glad you are enjoying Tassie.

[Sasquatch Jim]

 As for re seating a tubeless on the road, A piece of rope and a stick will do it if you have a way to add air.
 Mount the tire.
 tie a rope around the circumference as tight as you can.
 slip the stick under the rope and wind it up to tighten.
 It helps if you know what a Spanish windlass is.
 when you have wound it tight enough to make the tire squat out to the sides, add air until the bead seats.
 remove the stick and rope and bring tire up to proper pressure.
 ride away knowing you have beaten one of the gremlins.

[Yukonica]

It helps if you know what a Spanish windlass is.

.... a distinguished resident from Catalan who eats more beans than anyone can?

[jacksonracingcomau]

Story continued, busting another of my own myths
Went to near garage in morning, pumped and seated bead, lost my guage somewhere so guessed
100 miles later checked it, had 50 made it 44 hot, happy
Good day , twisties and forest goat tracks to get across Tas without highway
Last leg ended dark heading to east coast booked room, 30 odd miles shy , flat again !
Pondering situation, someone stopped, offered us lift
Rode the bike into campground nearby, caravaner there rides, said park here ring in morning, we’ll help.
Amazingly there is bus, we were back by 9.30 am after pub meal and good room
I fixed the tube from day before
Used car to break bead, this is the real easy way, bike sidestand better but there are (almost) always cars
Just park on tyre, bead breaks
Their  12v compressor, too big for bike, seated bead easily
Rode off happy, got a couple of dozen oysters to shuck back at base

Second myth ?
I buy michelin tubes, believing they are rubber and take patches where synthetic doesn’t
Spare was one I’d patched, patch had lifted

Of course, I am back in same position, fingers crossed it lasts another 200 miles till ferry then 60 odd home
But I’ll patch the other one again just in case, might even be able to buy new one in launie tomorrow

[malik]

Another eventful trip. To be added to the 'I remember when ....", & "a strange thing happened when ....? There's some great people out there on the road.  I trust it's just the patch or glue, but I do expect you'll have been able to pick up a new tube in Lonnie. I've found the Michelin, Pirelli & VeeRubber to be generally reliable. I don't tend to take patch kits along any more - found the glue gone off or hard by the time it gets to be used (although it has, on occasion' been useful). I just replace the spare tube at the next opportunity.

[jacksonracingcomau]

To put this story to bed
Did not buy a tube, ended up going back to East coast to buy some wallaby skins and off to centre to look at potential new home. Then to ferry, home and a few trips since. 700 odd miles
Yesterday flat again, swapped wheel for 18” and had a look today
Both patches intact, two small holes like a staple but nothing in tyre.
Until I found flap of rubber, when moved exposing wire inside tyre !,
Will test that tyre tubeless after sealing spokes but would not use it with tube again without an inside patch.
Lessons
Patches do stick to michy tubes as I should know, done it before in Tas a few years ago
Riding flat till bead breaks can damage tyre, some other damage to carcass is visible.

Can no longer get pr3 in 110/70 17 so trying pair of avon 3d xm, if they can wear as long and evenly as pr3 will be happy man. I have sealed my front 18 successfully, doing both 17 now
Maybe no more tubes but will carry one & levers for a while yet, adding gas cartridges + plugs to kit

[mtiberio]

..., clogwogs ...

Pejorative... Tsk tsk

[Numbercruncher]

I would love to see pictures from Tasmania if you have any you would like to post.

NC