2011 Stelvio

[John A]

I found a 2011 Stelvio at a defunct Guzzi dealer. It was a demo so it has a few miles and scratches. I dont know what kit it will need but probly a "C" kit. It has the small tank. What do you guys think would be a good offer on it?

[tonyduc]

I just purchased the B kit for my bike. I have the same bike with the small tank and love it which is why I invested in rollerising it. Can’t advise on a price but I bought my 2011 in 2014 brand new for $11,500. Probably could have gone lower if I knew about the flat tappet issue.

Tony

[pete roper]

I found a 2011 Stelvio at a defunct Guzzi dealer. It was a demo so it has a few miles and scratches. I dont know what kit it will need but probly a "C" kit. It has the small tank. What do you guys think would be a good offer on it?

Most likely a 'B' kit but might be an 'A' kit. No need for the heads to come off, piece of piss but it will need remapping.

Pete

[Lannis]

I found a 2011 Stelvio at a defunct Guzzi dealer. It was a demo so it has a few miles and scratches. I dont know what kit it will need but probly a "C" kit. It has the small tank. What do you guys think would be a good offer on it?

I watched Pete convert an '09 Griso to rollers a few days ago and am much less scared of it now than I was.   IF SOMEONE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING it only takes a few hours and nothing rocket-science!

Small tank - when tuned properly, I'm filling back up at 190 - 210 miles.   That works for me.

Keep in mind that this is a 7-year-old bike needing work with a few cosmetic issues.   I'd be going low on the price ....

Lannis

[pete roper]

Shhhhh!

No, really, it isn't a big deal. When Lannis arrived, (With his lovely and long suffering partner Fay.) we'd already done some of the prep and it was a bit more difficult than at home for the simple reason I was working on the floor and then because the bike had a weird pipe mapping it was a bit tricky it took longer than it would at home. Then there was the audience which always slows things down because of all the banter and shit slinging  .

Anyway, I got it sorted, not perfectly because nobody had a manometer so I had to wing the TB balance but the owner came back and said, "Well that doesn't suck!" So I suppose I did something right?

Many thanks, as ever, to Bill Hagan for not only being a mate but also allowing some random antipodean idiot to mess up his workshop to help another rider out.

The hospitality was shit-hot too!

Pete

[John A]

If I end up with this thing, Ill have to muddle thru it with your excellent instructions. I should be able to screw it up in several places but if it ran when I started, maybe it'll run when I'm done!

[pete roper]

Mate, the only thing to remember is if you get stuck, or are worried, ask before you screw it up. The mechanical swap on a 'B' or 'A' kit bike is a real doddle.

Pete

[John A]

Cool, thanks Pete

[pete roper]

Michael has been riding my 2012 big tank around while I've been away. Only problem is he's a filthy little midget and it's too tall. We need to find a ratty small tanker for him, drop the forks and stick a Griso shock on it and he'll be golden, until he can afford to upgrade the shock.

There are still flat tappet small tankers out there, even in Oz. We'll wait until a good one comes up and then rollerise it and they are one of the bargains of the century.

Pete

[John A]

I wonder what range of price I should be thinking of. Seems a new or relatively new 1400 can be found for around $10k. I plan on a sidecar since my right leg doesn't work. Maybe a DMC Classic, they have mount kits. It'll be my last new bike unless I wad it up. The dealer said I should figure out what it's worth and make him an offer. Maybe $5k ?

[pete roper]

Don't do it. CARC bikes are NOT a good sidecar tug.

Pete

[John Ulrich]

John A,  You having trouble hitting the "ton" with that race-built engine you're using now????       

[slopokes]

John a—- if you don’t take it tell the dealer I will for $4800....

[John A]

I'm taking Petes advice. Is the rear drive unable to take the abuse? Would a 1400 be a good choice for a sidecar? Probly have to make my own mounts if there is enough exposed frame.

[Bulldog9]

Wish I knew you guys needed a manometer I've got one could have given it to Jerry when he picked up Bills trailer. Oh well...

Shhhhh!

No, really, it isn't a big deal. When Lannis arrived, (With his lovely and long suffering partner Fay.) we'd already done some of the prep and it was a bit more difficult than at home for the simple reason I was working on the floor and then because the bike had a weird pipe mapping it was a bit tricky it took longer than it would at home. Then there was the audience which always slows things down because of all the banter and shit slinging  .

Anyway, I got it sorted, not perfectly because nobody had a manometer so I had to wing the TB balance but the owner came back and said, "Well that doesn't suck!" So I suppose I did something right?

Many thanks, as ever, to Bill Hagan for not only being a mate but also allowing some random antipodean idiot to mess up his workshop to help another rider out.

The hospitality was shit-hot too!

Pete

[pete roper]

I'm taking Petes advice. Is the rear drive unable to take the abuse? Would a 1400 be a good choice for a sidecar? Probly have to make my own mounts if there is enough exposed frame.

Nah, the bevelbox is built like a tank. The issue is the swingarm mounting and construction and the loads imposed on the shock linkage.

[John A]

Nah, the bevelbox is built like a tank. The issue is the swingarm mounting and construction and the loads imposed on the shock linkage.

Makes sense. I don't abuse my stuff but I do use it so a that sure is a big consideration. I'm looking around at options, my Bassa/sidecar is getting long in the tooth with over 150k miles.  If I want to scare myself, it still runs right out at over a hundred mph (thanks to Mike Rich Motorsports ) and handles very well. I was thinking of a CanAm spyder but while they are fun, it just doesn't float my boat. So maybe a 1400.. Wouldn't have to hop up the engine and put in a ten spring clutch. I don't want to just get a stinking Goldwing, probly the best choice for a car.

[tonyduc]

The Piaggio notice dated Feb 20, 2014 may be some help regarding the kits.

While bodywork is off you may want to add the ECU rubber boot which was mentioned in another notice. Also if you want to add OEM heated grips the plug wire is hard to find unless some bodywork is off or at least loose.

I should be receiving my B kit this week so I may have some questions, but I'll also take notes particular to this small tank bike and report them in another post.

One question regarding the Piaggio notice on the last page (I couldn't attach a .pdf), it says no change in ECU mapping MY's 10-11 (looks like only 08 required a new MAP), is new mapping necessary ? Perhaps I'll just see what happens.

Tony