Author Topic: CalVin: Any Experience with CO-Trim for a 15RC with Lambda=off?  (Read 1580 times)

Offline janguzzi

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I am driving my California Vintage (stock) with maps I got from "Beard" the mastermind  :wink: behind "GuzziDiag".
I am very satisfied with the latest version and I prefer it over the one I got from Beetle.

When you use a mapping with Lambda=off on a 15RC ECU ist also makes sense to take a look at the CO-Trim.
Normally the CO-Trim value is not used on a 15RC with Lambda=on so any value is possible.
Mine is now at - 113 which cannot not make sense when Lambda=off.
Any experience here which values do make sense?
« Last Edit: June 29, 2019, 01:27:33 AM by janguzzi »
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Re: CalVin: Any Experience with CO-Trim for a 15RC with Lambda=off?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2019, 01:32:16 AM »
With Lambda=off the 15RC acts like a 15M now, so trimming this value would make sense.
I have read somewhere that "0" should be normal, values from "-127" to "127" are possible.
One increment is 10 microseconds.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2019, 01:32:47 AM by janguzzi »
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www.janguzzi.de
-1992-2002: 1000S, 2nd Series
-2002-2004: V11 Le Mans "Grigio Titanium"
-2004-2011: V11 Le Mans "Rosso Corsa" & 2008-2011: 950S
-2018-2021: California Vintage
-2011: Griso 8V & 2023: V85 TT "Giallo Mojave"

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Re: CalVin: Any Experience with CO-Trim for a 15RC with Lambda=off?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2019, 09:00:58 AM »
You are correct.   When I do FI , idle mix is the last thing you do. I hook it all up w/software, go to CO trim and adjust WHILE looking into a ColorTune glass bottom spark plug. Get it spot on.  I have also used a sniffer up the pipe but like to SEE the flame color.
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Re: CalVin: Any Experience with CO-Trim for a 15RC with Lambda=off?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2019, 11:59:23 AM »
Hi Steve,
and which settings are "normal"?
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-2004-2011: V11 Le Mans "Rosso Corsa" & 2008-2011: 950S
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-2011: Griso 8V & 2023: V85 TT "Giallo Mojave"

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Re: CalVin: Any Experience with CO-Trim for a 15RC with Lambda=off?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2019, 01:36:53 PM »
Rodekyll, BrineyJim, and I were doing the GuzziDiag exam on Jim's Vintage and we got similar strange readings. Dave figured out that this bike (which had had two previous owners) did not have a 15RC ECU. Instead we found a 15M. We figured someone dealt with the lean low-speed fueling by putting in an ECU from an older Guzzi. Perhaps the trim values from an '04 would provide an insight...
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Re: CalVin: Any Experience with CO-Trim for a 15RC with Lambda=off?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2019, 01:53:31 PM »
The 15RC should work like a 15M w/you shut off O2's, in theory huh. Vintage has twinplug heads so it'll burn cleaner.  Most of the 15M bikes that are Cali's are at +30- +50 range,   V11 bikes may be up by +90. 
I would really use an instrument to get it set.   Do you know anyone testing emissions? They have a sniffer. See what the guy wants while you punch the buttons.
Just an idea.
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Re: CalVin: Any Experience with CO-Trim for a 15RC with Lambda=off?
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2019, 08:49:14 AM »
I  did make a CO-Trim to 0 with:

- IAW15xEEPROMTool_V0 .04. (was würden wir ohne Bernd bloß machen ...  :ja)
- TunerPro
- 15RC_EEPROM_V1.01.x df



Bike runs better now!
« Last Edit: July 01, 2019, 09:08:44 AM by janguzzi »
Kind Regards
Jan, Schuby (near the Danish Border), Germany
www.janguzzi.de
-1992-2002: 1000S, 2nd Series
-2002-2004: V11 Le Mans "Grigio Titanium"
-2004-2011: V11 Le Mans "Rosso Corsa" & 2008-2011: 950S
-2018-2021: California Vintage
-2011: Griso 8V & 2023: V85 TT "Giallo Mojave"

 

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