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Offline malik

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Re: Help diagnose this oil leak.
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2019, 05:49:24 PM »
Removed the transmission cage from the gearbox cover yesterday. Lots of coagulating (?) oil in there, especially in unused corners (likely from the Nulon G70), but so far, no evidence of metal particles. I'll see what washes out when I clean it up. Last oil change, there were no fines on the magnet, but the change before that there were lots of very fine particles. It looks like the large flaky pieces are confined to the space between the clutch drum & the outside of the transmission cage. So it's likely one or both of those bearings.

The bearing in the transmission cage (photo in previous post) (part #20 in the transmission cage parts page - B063342 in the V7S & GU92201120 in the V7C & Breva) is a 6004/C3 grates a little - I'll try a little oil on it, but I've picked up a Koyo at the local bearing shop for $A12.10.

The bearing in the clutch cover on the clutch shaft (that #10 - GU92201225) is a SKF 6205 ($A16.50 from the friendly local bearing shop) has only a very mild notchyness to it & spins fine. Mine is also stuck on the shaft, as was that on the V7C when I had it apart a few years back.





It looks to me that the blocking ring/spacer is helping to keep it on the shaft. I shall take a puller to it later today.
The neighbouring (friendly & accomodating) auto mechanic in the complex has offered a bearing to case compound to help keep the bearing in the case.

So, now to clean the gearbox & check for particles, inspect the gear teeth, pull & replace those 2 bearings, and clean & polish the oil from the plate on the sprung clutch - flywheel already done - it should be ready to go back together. I think I had better take apart the old bearings to see if I can determine if those flakes actually came from them, rather than elsewhere. Talk about getting close & intimate with your motorcycle. And this is only the clutch.

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Re: Help diagnose this oil leak.
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2019, 06:25:08 PM »
Ah, so Malik, you are going to glue your bearing into the case?   Good.  So I’m not the only one.

Let us know what goop you use for this.  I’ve read you want something higher temperature than normal since it’s an air cooled engine.

And if you do dig into the gear box, please post a lot of pictures.  Something tells me I’ll need them when I do my second clutch.
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Re: Help diagnose this oil leak.
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2019, 06:47:37 PM »
Taking plenty of pictures & making copious notes. Will need to. As soon as I finish this one, there's a mate's 750 Breva (projected start time - next week) and my V7c once again, both with oil in the bell housing and slipping clutches. There's a decent chance that these will go a lot quicker. My experience so far suggests that clutches start slipping (with oil in the bell housing) on the 750 at somewhere around 100,000km.









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Re: Help diagnose this oil leak.
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2019, 07:43:48 PM »
Well, mine with right on schedule with your 100,000 km estimate.   

That gearbox sure looks grotty with the nasty grey clotted oil. 
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