Rear Wheel Spline & Drive-Shaft Grease Question

[MedicAndy]

I'm getting ready to service a couple of my bikes, so I bought a 14 oz tube or Würth SIG 3000 Super Impact Grease from MG Cycle for greasing the rear wheel and final drive splines.

So here is my question..... So far, I had used Loctite Moly Paste for lubrication / greasing of the drive shaft. It seems to do a good job with keeping everything lubricated / greased, but this stuff at over $30.00 for an 8 oz container is very costly. In addition, the paste has a pretty low viscosity, so it does not only lubricate all of the moving drive-shaft parts, it also slings moly paste all over the rear brakes and tires, which are the parts that I rather not lubricate!!!!!





Has anybody ever used this Würth SIG 3000 Super Impact Grease on their drive-shaft? I'm assuming that if this grease is good for the rear wheel and final drive splines, then should it not also be good for the drive-shaft?  I also know what usually happens when I assume versus knowing.....

Either way, I need something better than the $30.00 moly paste, so please let me know (if the Würth SIG 3000 grease is a no-go for the drive-shaft) on what grease I should buy that will do what a drive-shaft grease needs to do.......

 



From the manufacturer:

Würth SIG 3000 Super Impact Grease

This product is a multi-purpose grease fortified with special additives enabling it to withstand the heavy impact and pounding pressures common to heavy equipment. Our special additive package allows the grease to stay in place and not to spatter or pound out of the bearing or fitting. Most greases manufactured today do not have this anti-spatter capability.


The product contains extreme pressure additives to provide long life under heavy loads, up to 65,000 PSI - 65 Timken load. This grease will withstand temperatures up to 550F. It has superior water resistance and resists most acids, salt spray, steam, dirt, dust and weather. We have also blended extra rust, corrosion and oxidation inhibitors into this product. You now have a grease that not only resists high temperatures and heavy loads, but also provides extra protection of equipment with its superior anti-spatter capabilities. A true long lasting product that can replace many commercially available greases.

Features:
- Lasts longer than many conventional greases, won’t pound out
- Performs at a wide range of operating temperatures up to +500F
- Excellent load carrying capability -65 Timken load
- Superior water resistance
- Special rust and corrosion inhibitors
- Resists most acids, weather, dirt, water, steam and oxidation
- Synthetic formula will not burn grass on golf courses  (Good to know if I ever decide to ride one of my 1100 Sports on a golf course) 

[bigbikerrick]

Andy, I bought a big tube of the wurth grease from MG cycle a few years ago, and thats all I use on all the splines, including the driveshaft/collar splines.A little dab goes a long way. That stuff is like glue, and when disassembled at tire changes, all the surfaces of the splines are still coated, I dont think you could sling that stuff where it gets on brake components, etc. its almost impossible to remove once applied. I would not mess with that moly paste, just the Wurth is fine.
Rick.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Sig 3000 is all I have used since Gordon and Cheesehead used to sell you a 35mm film can full of it for a dollar. 

[Fontain25]

It's as thick as peanut butter and sticks like glue.

[brider]

Ask Charlie (Antietam Cycles), he turned me on to it and I'm sure he can provide a positive testimonial.

[Rick in WNY]

The folks here pointed me at the Wurth grease last summer when I was doing a driveline service on my Cali. Be careful, the ability of that grease to stick to stuff is unreal... ie, if you're not careful, it gets EVERYWHERE. Don't ask me how I know... just accept the fact that I had a small dab on my pants... which turned into a large green/black smear on a tan loveseat...

My wife was not impressed. 

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

It's all I've used for the last several years. Only stuff that stays where I put it even after 1000s of miles. However, it likes to be exclusive - best to clean all of whatever grease is already on something away before the SIG 3000 is applied.

[MedicAndy]

Thanks for the replies. I noticed that the grease I received has an expiration date of 4/28/2020, which I thought is odd..... Does a grease have an actual expiration date? I assume that the grease I got from MC Cycle had probably been sitting on the shelve for a couple of years before they sold it to me..... I'm wondering if I would be better off to get a different tube of grease with some longer shelve life on it?

[Fontain25]

Wouldn't worry about expiration date.

[Wayne Orwig]

I noticed that the grease I received has an expiration date of 4/28/2020, which I thought is odd.....

Definitely don't put it on your morning toast after it expires.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Definitely don't put it on your morning toast after it expires.

 

[Cdn850T5NT]

When my tube of Honda Moly Paste is exhausted and if I cannot find another tube i'll switch to Wurth.

I have a fresh (small) tube of NLA Honda Moly60.  Have heard it's very good... but moot 'cuz it's NLA. Good to know of a good alternative going forward.

[Chuck in Indiana]

FWIW, I have a spline lube job on my CNC mill. Tried Honda Moly. It was gone in a heartbeat. Getcha selves some Wurth..

[Cdn850T5NT]

Good to know.  Thx...

[Mr Revhead]

Honda Moly for me. My tube will last me a while.

As for grease expiry date, itll be to do with the components separating whilst sitting

[Cdn850T5NT]

Good to know.  Thx...

I am talking, though, about Honda Moly60 paste... not Honda M-77 Assembly Paste (the latter is very thin, and NOT 77% Moly, as far as I know).  It supposedly replaced the Moly 60...

Correction:  I had meant to quote Chuck, re his comment on using the Honda Moly on his CNC Mill...

[Chuck in Indiana]

I am talking, though, about Honda Moly60 paste... not Honda M-77 Assembly Paste (the latter is very thin, and NOT 77% Moly, as far as I know).  It supposedly replaced the Moly 60...

Correction:  I had meant to quote Chuck, re his comment on using the Honda Moly on his CNC Mill...

The Moly 60 is what I used..

[Cdn850T5NT]

Thx for clarifying.  This is good to know; I will get the WURTH product.

Oh, BTW, through BMW M/C dealers, they have a "MP-3" product, I believe... standing for Molybdenum Paste.  Very, very spendy.  Not sure whether it actually is the Wurth product.  Just stick with Wurth thru MG Cycle.

[Pescatore]

Has anyone tried this stuff from Harper?



https://www.harpermoto.com/moly-additive-molybdenum-disulfide.html

[Moto]

Has anyone tried this stuff from Harper?



https://www.harpermoto.com/moly-additive-molybdenum-disulfide.html

That's an additive to put in the oil in the final drive. Different application entirely.

I'm a huge fan of Wurth for the splines.

Moto

[Pescatore]

Duh! 

[Lumpy Idle]

When my tube of Honda Moly Paste is exhausted and if I cannot find another tube i'll switch to Wurth.

yeah, that's the precise path that i will follow as well. i still have about 1/3 of that little tube of now unobtainium honda moly and when its gone i will switch to the wurth.  i have used the red lube on splines previously and have no complaints.

[wirespokes]

At $25/tube, Wurth Sig 3000 is kinda spendy! Are there any sources less expensive? The Wurth distributor will sell it for $16/tube, with five minimum. Maybe I should find four guys locally who want some. Are MG cycle and the distributor the only sources for this stuff?

[Cdn850T5NT]

To put this in perspective (maybe) - the BMW MP-3 is apparently, like, $100 / tube.  Not sure about the size of tube... but likely SMALL.

Hey, I'm not saying the Wurth product is cheap - but the BMW sourced MP-3 is ridiculous.

[wirespokes]

Yeah - BMW = Bring More Wampum - you definitely didn't bring enough!

I guess the idea is if you can't handle the exorbitant sticker price you don't belong on a beemer. Often the same part is cheaper at the BMW car dealership.

Normally a tube of grease is eight or ten bucks. Twenty five is a bit over the top, but if shopping around finds nothing better, what alternative is there?