clutch hub nut socket alternative?

[amamet]

this is for a 5 speed transmission.  anyone know of an alternative for this socket?  can't wrap my head around spending $65 for a one time use socket right now.  also, is this the same socket for the peg nut on the crankshaft?
thx
allen

[guzzisteve]

I made one out of a pipe reducer and brazed ringshank nails, then cut & trimmed it. Nut welded on other side, works great. Had to grind the inside of reducer for custom fit, then braze the tabs in place. This was in 84 to do my LM3.

[pehayes]

Allen:  Where are you located?  Some nice people on this forum might lend you one.  Maybe you live close enough to pick it up?  Maybe the postal cost is only a few days away?

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

this is for a 5 speed transmission.  anyone know of an alternative for this socket?  can't wrap my head around spending $65 for a one time use socket right now.  also, is this the same socket for the peg nut on the crankshaft?
thx
allen

Modify a socket of the correct o.d. Hacksaw and file until you have 4 prongs that fit into the ring nut.

Difference sized socket for the crankshaft.

[jwinwi]

100% sarcasm free for once: The Old School way was to hit one of the four cutouts with a hammer and punch. You have 4 chances to loosen the nut. Never used this method and don't recommend it but it's been done. Of course you have to use the same method (in the opposite direction) to tighten the nut. 

[guzzisteve]

100% sarcasm free for once: The Old School way was to hit one of the four cutouts with a hammer and punch. You have 4 chances to loosen the nut. Never used this method and don't recommend it but it's been done. Of course you have to use the same method (in the opposite direction) to tighten the nut. 

Works great if you have new nuts, I have done a bunch that way w/I couldn't find the one I made. Put in gear & hold output shaft w/drive coupler I tore up speedshifting and only has splines on 1 side, cut in half w/handle welded on side.

[moto-uno]

  As was asked earlier , where might you live ? I made one years ago and if you could  help with postage , I could ship it .
I live in Burnaby, B.C, Canada .  Peter

[wirespokes]

Modify a socket of the correct o.d. Hacksaw and file until you have 4 prongs that fit into the ring nut.

Different sized socket for the crankshaft.

That's the same approach I took four years ago with my first one, except I used the dremel and a grinder to remove the material between the studs.

If you're anything like me, your next two Guzzis will all need clutch work, so the effort won't be wasted. 

[Guzzidad]

   You can borrow mine that I made from an impact socket. I'm in FL. PM me if interested.

[amamet]

Thx all for the offer to lend me the socket,  need to do some work before I button the transmission back up. I was able to get the nut off with a few taps of a nail set. Just curious, since the factory tool is handheld with the crossbar thru the socket body, does that mean they didn’t have a torque value for this nut?  No value in any documents either. Layshaft nut yes, 100 or so ft/lbs (can’t remember off hand) but nothing for the hub nut.
Thx
Allen (New York)

[Old Jock]

Somebody may correct me later, but I too have never seen a value for it either

Given though the Layshaft nut and clutch hub do the same thing to different shafts I'd use the Layshaft torque value.

Essential these nuts are tight as they locate the shaft's position in the box with the mainshaft floating between. Bad things could happen if either were allowed to float.

Of course being the bodger I am I just give them a quick rattle with an impact and jobs jobbed

John

[Tom H]

I have that tool. The socket with a bar welded across it.

I think that I do have a torque spec for it. It's as hard as a man of average size can grunt it tight

IF you use this tool, make sure you can hold the shaft and the box and just turn it as hard as you can. WITHIN REASON of course.

Good luck,
Tom

[moto-uno]

 ^As above with a bit of loctite and the ridge peened over has worked for me for years in numerous different trannies .  Peter

[berniebee]

Since you have the round nut off, substitute an output shaft nut (pn 14219310) and use a regular socket to tighten it-with some thread locker.

[amamet]

Thats actually a good idea, I just got back from lowes with a 1" impact socket and used a cut off wheel, Dremel and files to make the proper tool, my "tabs" came out a tad thin but feels good and secure

[Wayne Orwig]

Per MG Cycle.

I use a punch to work off the old one.
Then, use a LAYSHAFT nut, that you have ground off the 'collar' from. And the same socket as the layshaft. I've done that exact thing numerous times and it has worked well.