Front wheel installation

[Yo Man]

I tackled taking both wheels off the Stelvio today and had new tires installed. Should be able to ride around here by April if the easy winter continues. I used Leafman's excellently tutorial for the front wheel and it was very helpful. I think I've got it all bolted back together properly but I'll ask for some guidance on one rather important aspect: the axle on the left side is recessed into the fork clamp by about an eighth of an inch. Is this the way it's supposed to be? I didn't notice it to be that way when I was taking it apart. Thanks all.

Can't seem to figure out how to attach a picture.

[davedel44]

Yo,

Can you post link to leaf man's tutorial please

Thanks,

Dave
Galveston

[Yo Man]

Posting links is similar to posting pictures I'm afraid: don't know how but if you go to the top of this page and type in "front wheel removal" in the search box, the link will appear.

[davedel44]

Got it thanks.

Dave
Galveston

[fotoguzzi]

[Yo Man]

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

[kidneb]

If you just want to post a link, you don`t have to host it somewhere like you do with a picture, just copy and paste or drag it into the reply window with the cursor.

                      http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=59073.0

[pyoungbl]

To OP's question, the front axle on my Stelvio is just a hair proud of the fork leg...not recessed any.  Of course the axle torque is supposed to be 80NM or 59 ft-lb.  Those two clamping bolts are only torqued to 10 NM or 7 ft-lb.

Peter Y.

[leafman60]

I tackled taking both wheels off the Stelvio today and had new tires installed. Should be able to ride around here by April if the easy winter continues. I used Leafman's excellently tutorial for the front wheel and it was very helpful. I think I've got it all bolted back together properly but I'll ask for some guidance on one rather important aspect: the axle on the left side is recessed into the fork clamp by about an eighth of an inch. Is this the way it's supposed to be? I didn't notice it to be that way when I was taking it apart. Thanks all.

Can't seem to figure out how to attach a picture.

Thanks, Yo.

I should have included some pics.  I'll try to add some this weekend.

The rider's left side axle does recess.  The pinch bolts holding that side allows for adjustment of the fork tubes to not bind in the fork leg shock assembly when compressed.

Step 8 of my old post describes loosening the rider's left pinch bolts and bouncing the front end and then tightening those pinch bolts along with all others. This procedure will float the lower left pinch casting to properly locate on the axle so as to not create a bind of the leg under compression.

The exact relationship of the lower pinch clamp on the recessed axle will depend upon the specific bike and the alignment of its fork legs.

Don't overtighten the small pinch bolts.  Only 10NM.

[leafman60]

Remember to pump your brakes back up before riding.

[Huzo]

Hi kidneb, when you say "just copy and paste" old dudes like me think of "paste" as a white substance in a jar that stings if you get it in your eyes......Um yeah, right!!   Anyway, can you tell me how to "just copy and paste" ? And please don't presume that I understand any "shortcut" terminology that you might use. Thank you.

[kidneb]

Hi kidneb, when you say "just copy and paste" old dudes like me think of "paste" as a white substance in a jar that stings if you get it in your eyes......Um yeah, right!!   Anyway, can you tell me how to "just copy and paste" ? And please don't presume that I understand any "shortcut" terminology that you might use. Thank you.

Oh no,- what have I got myself into   
Fact is Huzo,- my English is just what I picked up in school, and a couple of words I learned from watching films with Clint Eastwood,- and not to forget,- what I`ve learned here on WG.
So rather than trying to explain it myself, I believe we`ll be better off if I just copy and paste this tutorial for beginners. Hope it helps.
(Actually, rather than copy and paste, I`d just drag and drop it into the reply box with the cursor (on my iMac that is)).

                               http://lifehacker.com/5801525/help-new-pc-users-learn-how-to-copy-cut-and-paste
               

[Yo Man]

Thanks, Yo.

I should have included some pics.  I'll try to add some this weekend.

The rider's left side axle does recess.  The pinch bolts holding that side allows for adjustment of the fork tubes to not bind in the fork leg shock assembly when compressed.

Step 8 of my old post describes loosening the rider's left pinch bolts and bouncing the front end and then tightening those pinch bolts along with all others. This procedure will float the lower left pinch casting to properly locate on the axle so as to not create a bind of the leg under compression.

The exact relationship of the lower pinch clamp on the recessed axle will depend upon the specific bike and the alignment of its fork legs.

Don't overtighten the small pinch bolts.  Only 10NM.

That's a good description; so the left fork actually finds its own place on the axle and then you tighten up the pinch bolts. Explains the minor differences between bikes.

[gpranzo]

Catching up with this thread a little late.
I took my wheels off and got some new tires put on my elephant 2014 NTX from my local Cycle Gear and when I got the wheels back home from the shop I noticed that only one spacer was on the front wheel. I looked at the Guzzi manual exploded views and sure enough they call out just one spacer to be installed on the rider's left side. None on the Nut side? Am I missing something? When I go to tighten the nut sure enough the fork pulls into the disc. Can any of you take a look at your bike and let me know if you have the spacer on both sides of the wheel? Or just doing the bouncy thing on the axle and then tightening the pinch bolts is the way to go without a spacer? Thank you so much.

[gpranzo]

I figured out my issue. The MG diagram seems to be wrong. The spacer goes on the ABS ring side of the wheel, spindle nut side or right side at least on my bike. It is not necessary on the rider left side as the spindle/axle wider diameter on that side acts as a stopper itself.

[John Warner]

The diagram is indeed incorrect.
Just another of those 'endearing' Guzzi quirks, like showing a picture of a Thermostat in the Sump Spacer in the 8V 1200 Engine Manual!   

Glad you found out quickly.

THE most important thing with Wheel removal and refit is the Axle Pinch Bolt undoing/tightening.

Don't loosen or tighten them fully, individually. Always do a half turn on each, alternating between the two, until they're fully torqued (or undone).

If you undo one fully before touching the other, the loading on the other will be way higher than it should be, it's like over-torquing the Bolt.
The area behind the Bolts is prone to cracking, if you either over-torque the Bolts, or undo/tighten them individually.

They only really need to be 'nipped' up lightly.
Use Loctite, and do them up to a few Nm less than recommended.

[gpranzo]

Thank you John! What you are saying makes sense... once you know of the weakness!
I appreciate your reply. I'm taking the Stelvio on the WA BDR solo next week and don't want any wheels problem. Wish me luck!