New V7 III Stone owner - a couple simple DIY questions

[agdrache]

So, I've finally bought a V7 III Stone! Unfortunately, I had an incident a few nights ago where, likely due to the cold temperatures and probably-not-fully-scrubbed-in tires, my bike slid out from under me. I have a few parts on order to replace, and in the meantime I need to pick up a couple tools.

The rear brake pedal is bent, so I have this replacement on order: https://www.af1racing.com/OEM-Moto-Guzzi-Rear-Brake-Pedal-2B003336

I can see that it will require a largeish Torx tool to remove the brake pedal assembly. Does anyone know offhand what size? The largest I've used regularly is a T30, which is a good bit smaller - I'm guessing more like T45 or T50? Also, are there any other less-common tools I might need to replace the part, that might be less obvious before removing it? I'm hoping for this to be comparably simple to replacing the front brake lever, just with a couple more fasteners. I can see that the spring might complicate things, though.

Also - I have a pair of Koso Apollo heated grips that were previously on the bike I sold to buy this one. I want to install them on the V7, but they're slightly longer than the stock grips. I know that a lot of motorcycles have indexing holes on the handlebar to consistently position the controls - is this one of them? If so, am I better off getting rid of these grips and getting the shorter ones? I also still need to figure out which circuit makes the most sense to have them use, if I want them to be ignition-dependent.

[Kev m]

The rear brake pedal is bent, so I have this replacement on order: https://www.af1racing.com/OEM-Moto-Guzzi-Rear-Brake-Pedal-2B003336

I can see that it will require a largeish Torx tool to remove the brake pedal assembly. Does anyone know offhand what size? The largest I've used regularly is a T30, which is a good bit smaller - I'm guessing more like T45 or T50?

Also, are there any other less-common tools I might need to replace the part, that might be less obvious before removing it? I'm hoping for this to be comparably simple to replacing the front brake lever, just with a couple more fasteners. I can see that the spring might complicate things, though.

If you mean the two mounting bracket bolts, they are T40's.

I can't tell what the pivot bolt is for the pedal while the bracket is installed.

[agdrache]

If you mean the two mounting bracket bolts, they are T40's.

I can't tell what the pivot bolt is for the pedal while the Becker is installed.

Yeah, I'm talking about the two Torx bolts right next to the peg. Thanks!

[egschade]

In the future you might call Hamlin's in Bethel, CT for parts or service help. Might faster and cheaper than AF-1 and Jim really knows MG.

[Kiwi_Roy]

I have a V7III Special
The Bolts are 6mm socket head with a pair of 5mm sockets holding the master cylinder on.
The pivot bolt is also 6mm socket head, no Torx
There is no reason they have to use the same bolt head of course.

I don't believe there are indexing holes but dont quote me.

[agdrache]

In the future you might call Hamlin's in Bethel, CT for parts or service help. Might faster and cheaper than AF-1 and Jim really knows MG.

Thanks, I'll keep this in mind 

[Kev m]

I have a V7III Special
The Bolts are 6mm socket head with a pair of 5mm sockets holding the master cylinder on.
The pivot bolt is also 6mm socket head, no Torx
There is no reason they have to use the same bolt head of course.

Huh? That's odd so on some V7III production runs they used hex instead of Torx for the rear master cylinder/bracket. I'll try to remember to take a photo tomorrow.

[redhawk47]

My V7II Stone had indexing holes on the handlebar.  No big deal to drill some new ones.  I was installing new bars because the OEM were bent.

Dan

[Kiwi_Roy]

Huh? That's odd so on some V7III production runs they used hex instead of Torx for the rear master cylinder/bracket. I'll try to remember to take a photo tomorrow.

I was surprised too, the pillion footrest brackets are Torx

[greer]

I use a sharp pocket knife and/or a file to remove those nubbins on the switchgear so I can position them the way I want.  Put a piece of electrical tape around the bar if the switch gear doesn't want to snug up tight.  The grips may still be longer than your throttle tube, though.  I remembered reading a review on these grips early on, and the install addressed cutting the grips to to fit, take a look here:

 https://www.webbikeworld.com/koso-apollo-heated-grips-review/

And congrats on the bike, by the way.  Hope you'll soon have it fixed up better than new.

Sarah

[Kev m]

I was surprised too, the pillion footrest brackets are Torx

I guess I don't have to take a pic, sounds like we are definitely talking about the same location.

So they used whatever they had in stock. Are yours painted with matchmarks too or did they skip that?

[agdrache]

Soooo I picked up a Husky brand Torx socket set from Home Depot last night. I went with the security Torx for use with more things. Literally the very first time I tried to use it, the tip broke right off. So, I went back to Home Depot and returned it and picked up a single T40 socket - the regular version, not the security, figuring that more material would help. I tried to loosen up the bolts and the tip started to twist! I was able to get the pedal assembly off with careful and slow application of torque so that I could get a better look at it - it does appear that this is going to be a more involved project than I'd anticipated. I put it back together, and the Torx socket tip broke as I got the second bolt back to where the painted lines matched. This is insane!

[Kev m]

OUCH, wonder if an old fashioned impact driver would have helped? And/or a careful application of heat.

[Vagrant]

Heat, and take that crap back and buy some real wrenches.

[Vagrant]

Wrong again, no heat needed. Just use a 18" piece of pipe over the pedal and bend it back. Way soft material

[agdrache]

Wrong again, no heat needed. Just use a 18" piece of pipe over the pedal and bend it back. Way soft material

Did you find yourself having to deal with this recently? I ended up being able to fix mine without application of heat after a couple replacement Torx bits, just took things slow.

[9fingers]

So, I've finally bought a V7 III Stone! Unfortunately, I had an incident a few nights ago where, likely due to the cold temperatures and probably-not-fully-scrubbed-in tires, my bike slid out from under me. I have a few parts on order to replace, and in the meantime I need to pick up a couple tools.

The rear brake pedal is bent, so I have this replacement on order: https://www.af1racing.com/OEM-Moto-Guzzi-Rear-Brake-Pedal-2B003336

I can see that it will require a largeish Torx tool to remove the brake pedal assembly. Does anyone know offhand what size? The largest I've used regularly is a T30, which is a good bit smaller - I'm guessing more like T45 or T50? Also, are there any other less-common tools I might need to replace the part, that might be less obvious before removing it? I'm hoping for this to be comparably simple to replacing the front brake lever, just with a couple more fasteners. I can see that the spring might complicate things, though.

Also - I have a pair of Koso Apollo heated grips that were previously on the bike I sold to buy this one. I want to install them on the V7, but they're slightly longer than the stock grips. I know that a lot of motorcycles have indexing holes on the handlebar to consistently position the controls - is this one of them? If so, am I better off getting rid of these grips and getting the shorter ones? I also still need to figure out which circuit makes the most sense to have them use, if I want them to be ignition-dependent.

Congrats on the bike and sorry you dumped it. I hope you have engine guards, Givi or such.
Scott

[Vagrant]

agdrache, I just did it last week. No need to remove it.

[agdrache]

Congrats on the bike and sorry you dumped it. I hope you have engine guards, Givi or such.
Scott

I bought a pair of the OEM engine guards at the same time as the replacement parts from dropping the bike