Breva 1100 Battery UPDATE

[old head]

I have been looking for a new battery for several months.  No one locally had one, online was the same, Yuasa batteries have been unobtainable when I would search online.
I could buy a battery with the pos and neg reversed, but not the orientation as it came.

At any rate, Motobat finally got the size needed with the posts  in the correct place.  So I ordered one on Tues.  It came today, just 3 days.   

Opened the package ant the battery had 12.7 charge right out of the box, excellent.   t

he last battery I bought online came with a 11.5 charge and left me stranded several times after the warranty ran out.  It was a cheapie Chrome battery from Walmart.  It worked but didn't last.

Oh well, so far so good.  I will put the battery in tomorrow and see what happens.  It gets dark so early now can't do anything after work.

Old Head

[Huzo]

Whack a voltmeter across the terminals when she’s running to make sure your alternator is charging.
Probably worth checking both ends of each lead also. The earth (ground) end of the (-) lead can be problematic if not clean.
Having said that, my Norge has not had it’s removed since 2007....

[old head]

voltage on dash reads 13.4 when running.

the Yuasa lasted almost 4 years, then the Shorai lasted almost 9 before I went cheap.  The Lithium battery just would not crank below 60 the last couple of years.

I started with cleaning all cables, then changed all relays, then installed new relay and rerouted trigger wire through new relay with fused wire from battery to relay, installed larger wire from relay to solenoid.
finally had starter rebuilt with new solenoid.

now new battery.

If this doesn't fix it, I will run an additional ground wire from tranny, probably do that anyway.

I am not that good with electrical stuff, but my brother has been an electrician for close to 40 years and is a maintenance supervisor at a plant for close to 35 years and he says bring to him and will figure why it won't crank.

Old Head

[Huzo]

Buy him a drink and ask what the issue was.
If you have someone willing to help, that’s great.

[yogidozer]

They are about a third less expensive than Odyssey, anyone have one for awhile?
BTW free shipping at batterymart, no connection to them

[old head]

Well, had a few honey do projects, and some hurricane repairs before I could back to the  no crank issue.  On vacation, so I took a day to look into this.
first ran a jumper wire from battery to solenoid to be sure the rebuilt starter worked, and it worked great.

next I started checking for power at the relay.  I had run a fused hot wire from the battery to the power side of the relay and used the OEM power wire as a trigger for the relay.
when I pulled the relay, everything checked out, power from the battery, good connection to solenoid, got 12+ volts when starter button pushed from trigger.
plugged back in and could hear relay clicking but not the solenoid.???
checked voltage from back side of harness and no power coming out of relay??  Used a small screwdriver and pushed the wire from the back side to the relay and shazam, connection completed!!!! 

it would crank and start then died within a few seconds??  WTH.  Did this several times, and knew something is wrong as it never does this.
The first thing that came to mind was the tilt over sensor, what ever its called.  Sure enough, the plastic blade had broken off and the sensor was laying on it side.  turned it right side up and it fired right up and ran fine.  Rearranged the relays and used one of the other blades to hook the tilt sensor back to an upright and anchored position.  Its all good, and back on the road.

Old Head

[bad Chad]

Tip over sensor?  Where is it??

[old head]

On my Breva its on the right side, under the seat covered by wiring and next to the relays.  there is a plastic tray that has blades? for the relays and tip over sensor to slide down on to keep them in place.  Its black has 2 wires running to it and my has a slight rattle to it when you shake it.  Mine has UPPER stamped on the side.

Old Head