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Stone/.Jackal side cover fasteners
« on: December 30, 2021, 07:48:53 PM »
Okay, my next dumb question.  I recently bought a 2002 Stone, owned by an idiot who was "stripping it down" and mostly screwing it up.  He said it would not start, was spewing fuel under the tank, and had no spark.  The fuel problem was a loose clamp and it fired right up (so much for the "no spark" analysis).   The side covers had been removed and it appears to me that the mounting brackets have rectangular holes, possibly for a threaded insert of some sort,  What do I need to put in there so I can reattach the covers?  By the way, I paid $800 for this bike.  It is cosmetically challenged but seems to be mechanically sound.  I got it running in about 30 minutes, a new personal best for me.
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Re: Stone/.Jackal side cover fasteners
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2021, 07:56:25 PM »
It’s a square nut clip and a large head 6x1 slotted screw to go in it. Hardware store maybe
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Re: Stone/.Jackal side cover fasteners
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2021, 08:00:06 PM »
 Mine has slip over spring clips that have a threaded hole . I think they are 5 or 6 MM holes , a good hardware store should have something that would work . Use washers under the bolt heads with rubber backing . On mine I ran a zip tie thru the hole at the rear thru the bracket meaning it is hinged and only put a bolt thru the bottom .

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Re: Stone/.Jackal side cover fasteners
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2021, 04:49:24 AM »
The clip as said is just a spring clip.. nothing fancy, but the screw is kinda special. You might be able to replace both with one of those "Christmas tree " clips that hold on auto trim panels. If not they still offer the screws. I ordered two I lost from I think it was MG cycle. Screw, plastic washer, and clip. They were pretty cheap.
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Re: Stone/.Jackal side cover fasteners
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2021, 07:20:55 AM »
On my 2001 California EV, the screws have a thin, rubber washer, that when tight, keep the fasteners from backing out. Any good hardware should carry something that works.

Okay, my next dumb question.  I recently bought a 2002 Stone, owned by an idiot who was "stripping it down" and mostly screwing it up.  He said it would not start, was spewing fuel under the tank, and had no spark.  The fuel problem was a loose clamp and it fired right up (so much for the "no spark" analysis).   The side covers had been removed and it appears to me that the mounting brackets have rectangular holes, possibly for a threaded insert of some sort,  What do I need to put in there so I can reattach the covers?  By the way, I paid $800 for this bike.  It is cosmetically challenged but seems to be mechanically sound.  I got it running in about 30 minutes, a new personal best for me.
John
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Re: Stone/.Jackal side cover fasteners
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2021, 08:51:10 AM »
Mine has slip over spring clips that have a threaded hole . I think they are 5 or 6 MM holes , a good hardware store should have something that would work . Use washers under the bolt heads with rubber backing . On mine I ran a zip tie thru the hole at the rear thru the bracket meaning it is hinged and only put a bolt thru the bottom .

 Dusty

Thanks to the folks who replied.  I dug around in my junk pile and found some spring clips left over from a BMW auto project, and they will work.  Using a zip tie on the rear and one bolt through the bottom is genius. Remove one fastener and the cover hinges open.  Excellent.
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Re: Stone/.Jackal side cover fasteners
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2021, 10:25:23 AM »
Thanks to the folks who replied.  I dug around in my junk pile and found some spring clips left over from a BMW auto project, and they will work.  Using a zip tie on the rear and one bolt through the bottom is genius. Remove one fastener and the cover hinges open.  Excellent.

 Bassa side covers just plug in , and like a dummy I had affixed one side properly with a zip tie , but the right side cover had not been drilled yet for the zip tie . Lost it on 166 highway in Kansas coming home from the rally in Cedar Vale . At least the low budget Jackal sidecovers have bolts .

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Re: Stone/.Jackal side cover fasteners
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2021, 12:22:45 PM »
Using a zip tie on the rear and one bolt through the bottom is genius. Remove one fastener and the cover hinges open.  Excellent.

I would be VERY cautious about this technique.  As the plastic ages it becomes more brittle.  These things are known to fracture away bits of the plastic around the mounting holes and thus destroying the side cover.  Hang it the way you suggest and then inadvertently bump it while working is a recipe for disaster.

My 98EVs have the same mounting system.  Early I I jettisoned the stock mounting screws.  To lazy to go find a stubby screwdriver to remove the mounting screws.  My local hardware store has a good supply of metric hardware and even has some knurled plastic handles that mount directly onto a metric cap head screw.  Just put them in a bench vise and squish into position.  Makes for much easier access, especially roadside.

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Re: Stone/.Jackal side cover fasteners
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2021, 12:27:59 PM »
I would be VERY cautious about this technique.  As the plastic ages it becomes more brittle.  These things are known to fracture away bits of the plastic around the mounting holes and thus destroying the side cover.  Hang it the way you suggest and then inadvertently bump it while working is a recipe for disaster.

My 98EVs have the same mounting system.  Early I I jettisoned the stock mounting screws.  To lazy to go find a stubby screwdriver to remove the mounting screws.  My local hardware store has a good supply of metric hardware and even has some knurled plastic handles that mount directly onto a metric cap head screw.  Just put them in a bench vise and squish into position.  Makes for much easier access, especially roadside.

Patrick Hayes






Good way to do it and I believe I’ll do that on the ‘02 Stone when I bring it back to life in the spring
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