Stelvio clutch pull

[orionengnr]

Hello all--
I read recently that perhaps the later Stelvios have a lighter clutch pull than my 09, and I'd like to upgrade if possible.
Looked at the parts catalogues and see that the master cylinder has a different p/n for the 09 vs the 14-17, but also the slave cylinder has a different p/n as well.
Does anyone know the particulars of this? I'd rather not buy and change parts willy-nilly.

Also, the engine will not start unless in neutral--clutch switch maybe?

Thank you in advance, Rich in TX

[coast range rider]

The clutch itself, not the hydraulics would have to be changed (r&r engine) to get the lighter clutch pull.

You can try removing connecter at clutch switch and jumping the two wires together as a test to start in gear with clutch lever pulled in.

[ridingron]

Hello all--
I read recently that perhaps the later Stelvios have a lighter clutch pull than my 09, and I'd like to upgrade if possible.
Looked at the parts catalogues and see that the master cylinder has a different p/n for the 09 vs the 14-17, but also the slave cylinder has a different p/n as well.
Does anyone know the particulars of this? I'd rather not buy and change parts willy-nilly.

Also, the engine will not start unless in neutral--clutch switch maybe?

Thank you in advance, Rich in TX

What about the clutch itself? If it has the same part numbers, the change was only in the MC and SC. If so, probably a smaller bore dia. on the MC or larger dia. on the SC or perhaps both changed. Either way, that would seem to be your answer.

[Kiwi_Roy]

Also, the engine will not start unless in neutral--clutch switch maybe?
 

I think you should be able to start with the bike in gear and the clutch pulled in.
I usually find its the stand out that holds me up.
https://www.thisoldtractor.com/guzzi007/schematics/2008_Stelvio.gif
Item 2 is the switch, check that the purple wire is grounding out when you pull the clutch in.
Tip, wire colours may not be as shown but one of the switch (2) wires should be permanently grounded, the other only while the lever is pulled in.

You may find the bars are not grounded so use somewhere on the chassis to reference your meter to.
For example the V7C bars are not grounded but its easy to fix that.

[coast range rider]

What about the clutch itself? If it has the same part numbers the change was only in the MC and SC. If so, probably a smaller bore dia. on the MC or larger dia. on the SC or perhaps both changed. Either way, that would seem to be your answer.

Approximately in 2014 the Stelvio clutch (pressure plate and disc) part number changed to the newer clutch design of the California 1400.

[orionengnr]

First, thanks to all who replied. Guess I just need to move up to a 2014+ Stelvio for that lighter pull clutch, and get ABS and the 8+ gallon tank in the process.

Second, took a look at the clutch switch. Interestingly, there is no bracket on the lever to depress the switch plunger...so the plunger is extended full length regardless of actual clutch lever position. Which means the switch thinks that the lever is pulled all the time...so I should be able to start in gear even without pulling the clutch.  That leaves me even more perplexed than before. 

Any input is welcomed.