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Offline harrytief

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speedo drive hardened washers
« on: November 16, 2015, 12:47:16 PM »
Anyone know a source for those @#%& things that evaporate once they hit the floor? MG Cycle does not carry them.
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 01:22:08 PM »
Unfortunately you have to buy the whole drive assembly, they're not available separately.

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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 02:02:08 PM »
I just used an appropriate sized stainless steel washer when I had to replace one. I've looked at it a few times over the last 100,000 miles. No wear is obvious.
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 05:31:27 PM »
I just used an appropriate sized stainless steel washer when I had to replace one. I've looked at it a few times over the last 100,000 miles. No wear is obvious.

Good to know,

Would heating up a stainless steel washer red hot and quenching it in oil harden it?

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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2015, 05:37:52 PM »
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 05:42:51 PM »
Good to know,

Would heating up a stainless steel washer red hot and quenching it in oil harden it?

Cheers

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Dunno. I've never heat treated stainless steel.. but it would depend on what *kind* of stainless steel you are working with. I would be afraid that doing what you are saying would make it brittle. If Wayne has had good luck using a stainless washer, I'd go with that.
You could, of course make a washer out of an oil or water hardening steel, harden, and temper it, and you'd be golden. Sounds like a lot of trouble, though.  :smiley:
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 05:45:30 PM »
Dunno. I've never heat treated stainless steel.. but it would depend on what *kind* of stainless steel you are working with. I would be afraid that doing what you are saying would make it brittle. If Wayne has had good luck using a stainless washer, I'd go with that.
You could, of course make a washer out of an oil or water hardening steel, harden, and temper it, and you'd be golden. Sounds like a lot of trouble, though.  :smiley:

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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2015, 03:11:05 AM »
Hi everyone.

The source is www.kullager.se
Article Number: PS61210

Dimension 6x12x1 (all in millimetre)

NEVER use a standard washer because that is 1,2mm thick.

I have restored more than 70 gearboxes and every time I assembly the speedo drive - I test that it rotates freely. If you use washer with a thickness of 1,2mm - the rotation CAN BE blocked. I have seen the negative result.


I bought around 100 of these washers - and since I do not expect to live long enough to use everyone - I will give many of them away for free.

(I could need help looking for 28mm risers for V11 Sport Coppa Italia 01500280 / 01500281 / 01500680 and the Carbon fairing for V11 Sport Rosso Mandello)

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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2015, 04:58:31 AM »
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2015, 07:26:55 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2015, 08:27:54 AM »
BINGO!!!!
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2015, 02:22:35 PM »
Yeah, I can find them in The States but not the UK!
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2022, 10:21:39 AM »
I was going to order a few of these washers from Fastenal but I'll never use 100 of them. Does anyone have or know of a source that can sell me a couple of these washers? Thanks.
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2022, 11:05:26 AM »

      Blackcat, see Rolf's post above^^^^^^^ ( guzzi content: FREE)

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2022, 11:11:09 AM »
      Blackcat, see Rolf's post above^^^^^^^ ( guzzi content: FREE)

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Duh....of course this thread is quite old so he may have given them all away but I'll send him a PM. Thanks.
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2022, 12:16:01 PM »
I was going to order a few of these washers from Fastenal but I'll never use 100 of them. Does anyone have or know of a source that can sell me a couple of these washers? Thanks.

I can send you some.
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2022, 01:33:45 PM »
fwiw, based on the dimensions in a prior post ...

https://www.mcmaster.com/90214A414


Oops, I'd get'em from Charlie if he's offering.
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2022, 02:28:41 PM »
fwiw, based on the dimensions in a prior post ...

https://www.mcmaster.com/90214A414


Oops, I'd get'em from Charlie if he's offering.
That washer is 1/2 the required thickness.
Previous quote 6x12x1 mm
That washer is 6z12x.5
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Re: speedo drive hardened washers
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2022, 02:34:34 PM »
I can send you some.

Charlie, I haven't heard back from Rolf so yeah, can you send me 4? Let me know the cost and I'll PayPal you for the washers and the postage. Thanks.
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