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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2023, 10:13:14 AM »
"Does a 20 year old car need emissions in CA?
Smog inspections are required when you register or renew registration for a vehicle in California, but there are some exceptions. Your vehicle does not need a smog inspection if your: Gasoline-powered vehicle is a 1975 year model or older (This includes motorcycles and trailers.)"

Or you can move to Floriduh with a newer vehicle than 1975 and create a fog of smoke that will cover the entire roadway without much issue from the authorities. Happened to me twice yesterday at two different locations.
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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2023, 11:43:44 AM »
Motorcycles don't need to undergo smog checks in California. They do need to have the emissions sticker on the bike checked by DMV the first time the bike is registered in the state. I don't know what year it was that the stickers were first placed on bike. My Audace had the stickers on the rear fender in plain sight. I took them off as they were ugly as hell and were crooked to boot. I hope it doesn't create problems for any new owners.
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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #62 on: April 20, 2023, 07:30:16 PM »
"Does a 20 year old car need emissions in CA?
Smog inspections are required when you register or renew registration for a vehicle in California, but there are some exceptions. Your vehicle does not need a smog inspection if your: Gasoline-powered vehicle is a 1975 year model or older (This includes motorcycles and trailers.)"

Or you can move to Floriduh with a newer vehicle than 1975 and create a fog of smoke that will cover the entire roadway without much issue from the authorities. Happened to me twice yesterday at two different locations.

If I remember correctly, some of the guys over in the Porsche 912 forums complain that they have to have all the 1976 correct emissions equipment on their cars. 75 and older they were GTG, but 76 has to have the original fuel injection, air pump and catalizer things. They only made the 912E for 1 year 1976 so there are few able to function in CA. With my custom catless exhaust, quad dellorto carbs and NO air pump or emissions equipment I couldn't run mine in CA. I have it on Antique Tennessee Plates for life.  For kicks I had the shop that did my 4 wheel alignment do a sniffer test and they said it was running very clean and would pass Washington standards. I also have an 02 sensor in my exhaust system and AFM gauge, and it runs very clean and efficient (for an air cooled carbureted motor)

In many states, anything 25 years old or older and on classic plate registration  is exempt from the emissions thing.

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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2023, 07:50:03 PM »
"Does a 20 year old car need emissions in CA?
Smog inspections are required when you register or renew registration for a vehicle in California, but there are some exceptions. Your vehicle does not need a smog inspection if your: Gasoline-powered vehicle is a 1975 year model or older (This includes motorcycles and trailers.)"

Or you can move to Floriduh with a newer vehicle than 1975 and create a fog of smoke that will cover the entire roadway without much issue from the authorities. Happened to me twice yesterday at two different locations.

Maybe you should do a ring job to correct that issue. Be nice to your neighbors. On the other hand those behind you won’t have to worry about mosquitoes.
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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2023, 07:15:26 AM »
Maybe you should do a ring job to correct that issue. Be nice to your neighbors. On the other hand those behind you won’t have to worry about mosquitoes.

These were not my cars, just my fellow neighbors.
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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #65 on: April 21, 2023, 01:25:03 PM »
from my last post yesterday to here, I've completely lost the bubble.   I have no idea what this is about now.
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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #66 on: April 21, 2023, 01:47:36 PM »
from my last post yesterday to here, I've completely lost the bubble.   I have no idea what this is about now.
Best I remember it was an intended discussion on the virtues of the attributes of our ole trusted air cooled motorcycle motors.
From there, I can’t advise 🤔

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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #67 on: April 21, 2023, 01:57:24 PM »
OK

AIR COOLED EXAMPLE




WATER COOLED EXAMPLE



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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #68 on: April 21, 2023, 02:24:57 PM »
These were not my cars, just my fellow neighbors.

Ah, so then you don’t have to worry about mosquitoes!  Awesome! 
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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #69 on: April 21, 2023, 04:20:31 PM »
Best I remember it was an intended discussion on the virtues of the attributes of our ole trusted air cooled motorcycle motors.
From there, I can’t advise 🤔

Dan

Up until my previous post that I was referring , yes.  After that, no.
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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #70 on: April 21, 2023, 05:33:37 PM »
Up until my previous post that I was referring , yes.  After that, no.





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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #71 on: April 21, 2023, 06:28:02 PM »
Anyway, I think air cooled motors are cool.

Liquid cooling is better than no cooling when it comes to motorcycles, glad we have choices.
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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #72 on: April 24, 2023, 07:50:54 PM »
For smaller displacement, simple, classic, or retro, I don't think you can beat air cooled on the open road. For performance or urban riding with a larger displacement, *modern* water cooled has its advantages. Some early water cooling was trash though, especially paired with larger engines. I have a Ducati 907ie that will try to send you to the hospital if you catch too long of a red light with it.

I have been eyeing a Kawasaki Z900RS SE for quite some time and if it wasn't water cooled I'd have bought it already. It's a fantastic retro bike, but the radiator is an issue for the style of modern classic I'd like to build it into.

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I bought a 2019 Kawasaki Z900 RS (new from dealer).  I too am a fan of air cooling, but the Kawasaki is just brilliant.   

It hasn’t given me any problems whatsoever in the last year and 25K miles. 

Heck, I’m even getting used to dealing with drive chains.  Seriously, these are fantastic bikes

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Re: Air cooled, better than the rest?
« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2023, 10:02:12 AM »
I like and appreciate modern stuff but given that I'm old I find myself still interested in old type "things" like, ltractors, and air cooled motorcycles. Of my 7 motorcycles 5 are air cooled (unless the Cali 1400 is considered oil cooled). We'll probably be able to buy water cooled bikes for a good while but not air cooled ones much longer.
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